Bitwig and OverBridge

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#33

Hmmmm, there is an easier way that means you don’t need 2 of every track.

Just create an Instrument Track and then add 2 devices, a Hardware Instrument device (set that up to the correct Elektron kit and midi channel) and then an Audio Receiver device as per the 3rd instruction above.

This means 1 track will do both midi and audio receiving. I’m wondering if making it a Hybrid track will let you record either midi or audio depending on the input (this works for normal midi equipped gear which is very useful).

KY

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#34

Thanks I was struggling to get the A4 talking to bitwig today. This will help. I will try it tomorrow.

#35

No problem. It is a little tricky, but now that I understand it makes a lot of sense and provides some flexibility.

I am still learning Bitwig. It’s cool, but is glitchy.

#36

I would be interested in knowing where you find it glitchy. I am on the verge of getting ableton or bitwig. I am finding ableton interface more clunky to work with, would prefer to be in bitwig if i can make everything work as expected, particularly with overbridge.

#37

I’ve not used it enough yet to uncover some of the glitches I read about in forums, but midi has stopped working for me sometimes, and also overbridge can suddenly stop working. I’m going to use it all day today (now that it’s set up) and can report back in later.

Bottom line however, everything is in sync (hardware, overbridge, software) and this is something I could never get working in Live.

#38

Template here if someone need it :

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#39

Still cant get any sound.
I have spent three days trying to get sound from overbridge to ableton and bitwig. In ableton I get distorted, muffled sound using the asio4all driver. In bitwig i get no sound at all. Just about ready to give up on it.

#40

Can you summarize specifications of hardware and software ? how you configured ? i mean plugin, daw configurations for buffer, soundcard, how you set it up… ? Do you reduce the amount of things plugged to testing… The first mistake people make is to plugged everything to test… rather to try one device bear in mind what to achieve at the end and progressively make the task harder.

If you put another instance of VST not overbridge do you have sound ? Normally before to spare audio when you put OB on instrument/midi track you have audio… (sync, latency all of that coming later in the process) I don’t see what Asio4all coming in the story. Just use your system-motherboard soundcard for now. Introduce PRO Soundcard later in the configuration process and plugged only your A4 or AR and try to get the Master output audio signal first. Put overbridge on inst/midi track and click play on A4 or AR… If no sound, put another VST on inst/midi track if no sound problem is not from overbridge…

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#41

Hi William, just on my way to work but will give you some details soon. Thanks for your help.

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#42

Hi William
I am using a Windows HP With Realtek onboard soundcard windows 10 64 bit.
I am connecting analog four only via overbridge, to both bitwig and ableton.
In ableton, I set up the VST, audio and midi tracks as needed.
I am trying to get audio through speakers, but it is very low and distorted using the standard realtek driver or asio4all driver.
When using an internal software vst the audio is working fine.
I do not have a stand alone audio interface such as a focusrite. If needed I could buy one but just trying to get things connected to verify whether to purchase bitwig or ableton standard.
In bitwig again internal vst working fine. Cannot hear anything from analog 4 via speakers.

Is there any way to test just using analog four as the audio sound card? Is it just a matter of sound being routed back via usb to analog four and using headphones connected there when overbridge is enabled? Just trying to find a way to bypass internal soundcard as it is probably rubbish.

#43

Do you set your analog four in Overbridge Mode ?
How about the metering if you put Overbridge Analog Four plugins on a Instrument track ? do you have something visually moving when you click on play on your A4 ?

What values have you set for Buffer and Safety Margin under Ableton and Overbridge plugin configuration ?
If you plug a headphone on your A4 at the same time as your Overbridge session do you have sound ?

#44

Hi William
Analog 4 is ob enabled.
Meters on overbridge are working, seeing it lit up for all tracks… Also in ableton little audio meters light up. I have set buffer to 64, 128 on overbridge and similar on soundcard side. I am not sure about safety margin but can set that correctly tonight to 50 or 75
I will try the headphones in analog four tonight as well.

#45

I think it is a laptop driver configuration issue. I also need to go through all the ableton windows settings I.e turn wifi off etc. Will do that tonight.

#46

Not sure what you described can be an error yet already. You need to set the same buffer under in DAW preference and in Overbridge. So if you put 64 buffer under Ableton in audio preferences and 128 in Overbridge that’s a mistake. you should set either as 64 - 64 or 128 - 128
In your case try also 256 - 256
And for safety margin 100
THEN if you have audio we can reduce it all the way before audio start to failed. that’s how we setup a buffer you try with high value then you slowly down until the moment where audio start to drop - introduce noise etc…

#47

Ok will try that too thanks

#48

well i tried connecting bitwig demo and ableton lite. For bitwig, I was getting around 30 ms latency. For ableton, I think 16 ms latency. Ableton seemed to be more successful as I was able to route internal ableton sounds back to the analog 4 successfully and hear them through headphones But I am still not 100 % understanding the whole thing. Bitwig was less successful, as I was unable to hear internal sounds of bitwig sounds back to analog 4.

#49

So you try to use Elektron Device as well as soundcard ?
I will try it tomorrow because i don’t work like that.

#50

I used the analog four as soundcard, with headphones plugged into analog four to hear the sound. I cannot hear any sound through my computer otherwise.

#51

You can’t plugged headphones on your computer directly ?

#52

Considering the cost and learning curve to integrate with a DAW, and considering the audio issues I am experiencing, I am most likely going to give up on computer integration altogether, and spend the money on more hardware. Too many hours wasted trying to get configuration working, with no guarantee of success at the end.