Digitone + Nord Drum 2

Elektron Gear Digitone/Digitone Keys
#7

Nord Drum 2 requires a bank change message to change programs.

EDIT: Bad info! See below!

#8

Ok, that makes sense then. Elektron machines are incabable of this. I think it is lame they can’t do this.

#9

Can it switch programs if you’re already in the right bank? Or if you just use the first bank?

#10

If I remember right, it will accept the first program change but then it’ll ignore others until you send it the bank change message. I think I posted about this elsewhere on here but I can’t remember which thread it was in.

EDIT: Bad info! See below!

#11

Thanks for the info. Bummer!

#12

Sorry, bad info - PC alone should work!

And you should be able to send the complete message on the Digi, as long as you can fire those bank CCs before you send the program change.

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#13

That is great news, thanks!

#14

Just paired ND2 and Digitone together testing it out. They sound perfect together. Quick sequencing with probability from the DN is a nice addition. I always use analog gear for kick drums (rather than ND2) but with the digitone they sound perfect in the mix together.

#15

And when I say perfect in the mix, I mean just the ND2 stereo out in the Digitone inputs. Doesn’t feel like any individual sounds need separate processing etc sounds great straight out the box!

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#16

Any samples?

Not many videos of this combo, but this is good (ND1?):

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#17

How are folks using the ND2 in MIDI?

Individual channels makes sense, but with 6 channels but only 4 MIDI on Digitone.

Edit: reading the manual again, it seems like you can have both Global and Individual MIDI channels. So could just trigger some sounds, while have more control over several others.

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#18

If you want to modulate parameters on all of the 6 parts individually, you’ll need 7 midi channels: global to play all six voices, and six channels to modulate each voice / part individually. If you send notes on an individual channel, they will trigger the part and play the pitch i.e. chromatically.

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#19

So far this is going great for me. The sounds mesh well together.

#20

I had that combo for a while. But like mention sole of the parameters require msb and lsb which works really badly on Elektron gear. It got so annoying that I ditched that set up.

But never the less they sound great together.

I would maybe implore you to check out Volca drum instead. Same type of synthesis just not as deep, but also not so deep on your wallet…

Edit; here’s a jam where I’m sequencing Digitone and ND2 with the OP-Z.

All sequencing from OP-Z sounds are from Digitone and ND2

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#21

Lovely tune, and damn that bass is wonderful. Are you using the onboard compressor here and if so, how do you find yourself setting it for a mix like this?

#22

I most likely used the air effects compressor on the Mpc Live. And those effects are great

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#23

To make this even clearer for any future readers: you can switch kits on ND2 from Digitone by setting your MIDI track as follows, for e.g. 5.14

BANK: 1 SBNK: 5 PROG: 14

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#24

Anybody using this combo on a regular basis? How do you find the usabilty of this setup? I’m interested in using this couple together as a very compact setup and always found ND2 could be a very good partner to my DN. Also, I really found it very extremely good sounding and flexible when I had the chance to test it some time ago from a friend.
I ask this because I recognize I’m just used to play two Elektron boxes together just syncing patterns and I’m a little afraid of missing the inmediacy this provides and the possibility of p-locking effects such as reverb… I’m not a very good friend of multi-instruments complex setups I’m afraid hehe…

#25

I will add I’m also looking into Model:Cycles as a lower cost and easier to use alternative but I have the intuition the ND2 is a device worth years of exploring and M:C not so much (ofc I may be wrong about the M:C but it doesn’t seems such a deep and flexible device)

#26

The Digitone has only four midi tracks. The Digitakt or OT would offer more sequencing power with the addition of LFO’s: the OT with 3 midi LFOs and 10 assignable CCs per midi track. Obviously it’s be overkill to get either of those to just sequence the ND3. I don’t have one but judging on specs the Beatstep Pro would provide more a lot more flexibility + more hands-on than the DN for sequencing the ND. If you’re planning on using a ND in a live setup, I’d choose an ND3 because of the built in fx (send per part)