For midi sequencing which do you prefer OT or DT?

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#33

Well, stuff like going mental with scales and step lenghts of tracks, plocking the arps, throwing in LFO controlled chaos into the arp settings, trigless locking arp/scale/lfo settings, multiplexing all this into a signle MIDI output channel from several tracks. Use one track for some note data, another for contasting note data, yet another for CCs, all having diff. scales and lenghts… you get the idea :loopy: Obviously this fun is increased greatly if you are controlling something over MIDI which also responds to CC.

Some of the most wonky, royally skrewed patterns I have ever made have resulted from having too much free time messing with the OT MIDI tracks. I can add so much MIDI sauce that I will have no fn clue as on what the result will sound like, no matter how hard I tried!

Some people have said that having the OT as a MIDI seq equals having thousands worth of exotic sequencing modules in modular world? I can kinda understand how that could be the case.

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#34

Wait till they try a MidiBox Seq or Cirklon!

#35

I’m going with @stutech here… :slight_smile:
I run the OT midi sequencer and I only have a mono synth as far as hardware so poly hasn’t been an issue. I’ve heard a lot of neat stuff come out of it. The arp is awesome, and three lfos per track. Having the lfos modulate arp parameters, plocking the arp and lfos, and custom designed arps and lfos add a ton of options. I use the added poly notes as notes for the arp to play, which again can be plocked per step. Multiple tracks can play to the same channel. Have made a chart that works to lock the arp to modal scales and then you can go to town modulating pitch affecting parameters and it all stays in key. Track length, trig counts, etc… I like how it provides a grid based sequence to feed back into the recorders and then you can lock the recorder/playback tracks referencing the same steps. I’m sure it could be better with poly but really it’s not too shabby and a lot of amazing things can be done…

I like the midi control of the midi side too. You can midi control the arp and other midi parameters, have had some fun with OT sequencing Logic au’s while at the same time Logic midi au’s modulate the arp and other midi track parameters, freeing up midi lfos…

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#36

There’s something about having the midi sequencer be part of the same unit that can accept the audio signal and then apply locks per step. If you have a 64 step midi track coming into a 64 step thru machine you can easily add fx locks per step, a reverb lock on step 32 of the thru puts reverb on step 32 of the midi track. With a recorder going you can have it slice and be able to playback any one of the 64 steps, so you can have flex remixes going as well, with of course all manner of flex plocks. Change the track length between the midi track and the recorder/playback and lots of interesting variations can happen.

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#37

Can you elaborate? Are you creating a custom arp that contains the steps of a certain mode/scale, and then modulating/locking the arp params to have random/locked runs of notes?

#38

I agree that it is handy having the midi sequencer on the OT for sure, it makes sense when sampling a midi synth or drum machine when wanting to do sample chains or getting exact timing, sampling loops and so on.

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#39

Believe or not the OT and A4 have all the same scales as the Digitone. It’s a music theory thing. Any major or minor scale is actually the same notes as 6 other modal scales in different keys… The only thing needed to be updated in the OT and A4 would be the UI to allow you to select them by the proper key and name.

Using the following chart you can access the 6 other modes in any key by setting the OT arp to the corresponding relative major scale and key.

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#40

oops, had totally forgotten there’s scale modes at all on the OT in the arp menu, thanks.

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#41

Yep, works on just note trigs too. With it turned on you can send lfo’s to transpose or whatever and it stays locked in key… :slight_smile:

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#42

Could you make a chart for chromatic scale modes ? :wink:

#43

to echo @tsutek4h - do not under-estimate the fun of setting multiple octatrack midi channels to the same channel. you can then mute/unmute tracks for interesting variations.

on a related note, if i’m using limited midi tracks (for example just a bassline), i use the other tracks to store alternate takes of the bassline.

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#44

@stutech - what are you using to translate aftertouch to program change? assuming something like the midi solutions boxes but would be very happy if there is something obvious I’m missing.

#45

You can also use midi tracks to modulate other midi tracks, but it’s tricky. :loopy:

What for ? If you want to modulate Notes, Len, Vel, Arp speed/mode/range etc…you have only 3 lfos, and you can’t use another midi track with the same channel to do this.
But if you use midi tracks sending midi on auto channel number, you’ll be able to modulate the active track with 6 or more lfos.

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#46

Neither I use the AK as its sequencer can record chords and trigger the internal sounds with those 4 voice poly chords
With the OT and DT you can’t record 4 voice chords for the internal sounds as they are mono.
Also with the AK you can record from your PC really complex midi data into the AK sequencer and it comes out better and sounds different —google abusing theA4/ AK sequencer trick

#47

Topic reminder:

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#48

bomebox

#49

I see one of those near me; and I think about it every now and then… purely for the midi sequencing of a Virus…

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#50

Mpc500 is not very sexy alone, but combine with OT, it’s much more interesting.

Midi overdub quantized is great.
I’m thinking about recording OT midi automation with it, record crossfader, play tracks individually in order to bounce tracks with crossfader modulations. :wink:
It can save / load standard MIDI FILES…
Sysex.

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#51

:wink:

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#52

Very interesting. I wish they add it to OT one day, seems technically possible. I guess Notes Off are generated differently.
This is confirmed with DN too? With 8 midi voices per track?

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