You ask why people are selling their AR yet are thinkg about selling yours as well? 
It’s always good to know other opinions!
Get a Maschine Studio…apparently you won’t have to look at your computer!
Why would YOU sell your AR?
Programming may be part of the music process…
Don’t know well. Back when I had Maschine all my work was super fast. AK es awesome, don’t get me wrong. But, for example with only 8 tracks I always have to play a simple beat and then spend a lot of time changing sounds with p-locks. And another thing: I always end up using samples (except for bass drums).
This is only my experience. But many people are selling their AK, that’s a fact.
steep learning curve, not as bombastic as thought compared to A4, demotivation through OB, no retrig recording, ins and outs bit dodgy, fewer fx as a4 / ot, few lfo, stupid sample management structure (how hard would a tree be?), pads seem bit unresponsive … my gf just got naked, must stop this thread and attend to her needs…
Why did you buy the AR in the first place?
To answer to your question: there is a huge thread about people opinion about the AR:
I only see one Rytm on ebay today that isn’t from a dealer, and maybe 1-2 at a second hand price. Not really sure where you are getting the idea that everybody is selling it. People always buy/sell high end gear especially when they are trying to find something that suites their needs. I’ve had mine for about a month now and I’m still impressed by some of it’s features and rich bass, but I also think I might have to outsource other sounds I want in the mix with my DAW.
Hah, nice closing line!
Would seem you’ve nailed most of the concerns
i’ve read about and in part why I dont own one.
Thou the bugbear of few updates is one I also hear about.
Sold mine last week.
It’s a beautiful drum machine and I hope to own another one one day. But right now I’m trying to get my finances in order and I couldn’t justify having that much money tied up in a drum machine.
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the glittery curtain falls and then comes the hard realization that it is just a piece of gear. not the fast ticket into tomorrowworld they had hoped. so now, if i cant get pussy as a kick ass dj persona, i might as well spend that cash on a ticket to mallorca and bang some drunk girls instead. 
edit: sorry for beeing so cynical. coffee is almost done. and the weather is getting to me. what the shit is this?? when i look out of the window i feel like i am in a dystopian novel. germany please…
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I am in no rush to sell but I’ve decided I need to trim something out of my set up and at the moment it is between my Tempest and Rytm. I like/love them both but something has to go. It’s more of a “I can’t justify having a grand tied up in both of these when I’m struggling to find time to jam” thing.
I too have noticed a few Rytms up for sale (as well as Tempests actually - at least in the UK). Trying to be objective about things, my Rytm thoughts:
- It does take more effort to make it sound good when put up against, say, the AK/4.
- I now have a few “demanding” pieces and would rather put time into learning my MnM
- Rytm comes alive with samples but I’m not sure I am a sahmple guy (despite owning an OT…!)
- OB was a let down though not a big deal
In all likelihood I’ll keep the Rytm and sell the Tempest. Having a set up made up of Elektron boxes is about ITB as OTB gear can get! Now if only Elektron can come up with that master unit we are all craving. Like a central mixer/FX place that will also manage the set/project loading of all other machines. That would be epic.
Mine has been in a taped up cardboard box for about 5-6 months. Debating selling. I’ll maybe try again when OverBridge for Rytm comes around.
Why is it boxed up?
TR-8! This thing is so damned immediate and fun. Run through a Sherman Restyler and/or Permut8 gives a million crazy sounds. I use Push with this as well, banging on the pads, sequencing via Live session-view clips. Much fun to be had here and all is saved in Live projects. Haven’t even tried bringing it into Live via USB for separate channel recording. I suspect that will be fun as well.
Added to that I find it so much easier to use samples in Ableton Drum Racks. Bringing samples into the Rytm is a less than optimal experience right now.
I am getting a Korg Volca Sample for playing samples OTB. I love the demos I have heard just as much as the Rytm so far. But that’s just me.
TrabanT’s list is also spot on.
If Elektron did a massive update and made this the analog MachineDrum (MIDI sequencing, resampling, CNTRL-AL, more FX, more machines, etc.), plus Sample management and tight sync via OverBridge, then I think I will take it out of the box again. Until then, I don’t feel the need. Tempted to sell it to fund other gear - start a small modular to pair with my A4!
keepin it classy, dude…
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If you aren’t inspired by the sample migration with Rytm, Volca Sample is no better.
Also, I don’t get the TR-8 over Rytm fascination with immediacy.
Do you mean that the pattern starts again more immediately because it can’t do 64 steps?
After taking just an hour to move in some sample chains and set up a handful of kits, Rytm couldn’t be any more immediate for me. So I may have to push a button or two before accessing the parameter I need to tweak. Considering how much farther the sound goes over TR-8, that half second is worth it.
But, to each their own.
Disclaimer: my post may be biased due to the fact that I’ve been programming drum multis on Blofeld + MnM for 2 days. Rytm is a breeeeeeze.
Let me know if you want to sell the T, thinking about going 2 X T into OT
see if I can make it work, for all its issues I can fly around the T and, have recently found what I consider “my” sound with it.
got to much other stuff im just not using and I’m to slow now to remember how to keep them all swinging along when i want to use them.
(RY-30, R-70, MP-7, SP-808)
might even sell either my beloved MnM or A4 as they are not getting much love either, dunno on that thou?
Cheers
Yes both points. I do not have an AR I have been on the fence about it.
I do personally use the Volca sample amzing sounding little box transfering samples from iPhone/ipad for me is a breeze and the thing as a very “full” sound I hate to use warm but maybe a 'vintage" sound that is very pleasing to me.
I am rethinking my setup :
Octatrack /Beatsep Pro/ A4 /Volca sample/Maschine/Live (?)
Minibrute SE/MS20mini
I think the level of expectation is higher when comparing a $1400 vs $160 unit. I really like the AR and even if it had limited memory lets say 16-32mb with a direct sampling function, I don’t believe it would eat into other Elektron sales.
I definetly agree:
AdamJay
Also, I don’t get the TR-8 over Rytm fascination with immediacy.
I tried the TR-8 and wasn’t really impressed
@adamjay and dickmalibu
Yes, exactly. That’s what I was trying to get at I think. If I am basically satisfied with my setup of TR-8 into Sherman, Push + Drumracks (samples, Microtonic, Operator, etc.), then I find the Rytm a bit redundant as a $1300 sample sequencer. $160 for a Korg Sample is maybe more suited to my current lineup, that’s all.
I definitely understand that gear is subjective. I personally have just always loooved me some 808 sounds. Could never afford an 808. TR-8 through the Sherman just makes me smile. It ain’t for everyone though, especially that green!
Maybe immediacy is the wrong word then? I feel the TR-8 is much simpler and more limited, yes! I actually like that sometimes. (My brain is very tired after work. Don’t make me think! 
) I add on fx in Live and resample and chop to get insane sounds. I tweak away at Microtonic to get insane sounds. But… I usually just end up using fairly simple 808/909-ish sounds in my songs. So TR-8 does what I need.
Yes, to each their own. Absolutely. No problem with that! I live by that and say it all the time. 
I mostly am 100% studio bound, no gigs. I’m sure having more functionality and specs in one box like the Rytm would suit live players rather than my patchwork of drum solutions.
I don’t want to give the impression I am bashing the Rytm, just kinda hoping it will soon have more features. I think it’s fine now, I bought it after all! I don’t think it adds much to my current setup so… yeah, that’s just me. But wait… I see there is a Rytm OB announcement on the homepage. I might be changing my mind soon? Ha.
Is that your current setup or new ideal setup?
That Beatstep Pro looks mighty interesting. Seen some great videos of it recently.
Seems like you do already have lots of drum options: Octa, Beatstep, A4, V Sample, Maschine, Live can all do drums or sequence things, etc. as I’m sure you’re aware. What would trade out for the Rytm? Or is the Rytm just something on top of those? Just curious. Nothing wrong with having tons of options!
Oh, I forgot to mention I also have the A4 which I think is a killer drum machine in and of itself. (Big thanks to Daren’s sound pack.)
No worries, I didn’t get that impression.
FYI, there are some changes which kind of act as new features in the Rytm firmware that was released today to accompany the OB beta for Rytm.
For instance, you can now copy track sounds around from any track to any other track. If the synth machines aren’t the same, it just ignores the synth parameters, but the sample page stays intact.
This basically means making chords and layers from a track with a sample is much, much easier now.