I’m starting to get the hang of the Move now. It’s clearly “just a sketchpad”, but it’s quite effective at it. The workflow is logical and reasonably quick. Not as quick as a Syntakt, but far smoother than eg the MC-101. And then seamlessly transferring to Ableton Live in the end is of course a headline feature.
The four track limit seems to be just enough to get a good song going without getting too stuck in the details. I’m hearing so much more in my head and that’s the cue to upload it to the cloud and pick it up in Live instead.
Today I even used it just to play something quick with the kids, using the absolutely crappy built-in speaker. Just as a fun thing but the fact that it has a speaker and a battery made it an obvious choice for that purpose.
I do wish it came with more preset sounds and kits. I guess I’ll have to make my own but a big part of the inspiration of it comes from stumbling over good presets and I feel I’m already exhausting those moments of surprise - I’m even starting to recognize the names of some presets I enjoy. Since it’s not really made for sound design like the Syntakt, the number of presets plays a big role in getting the creative flow going.
Another thing I kind of wish it had is a save/restore point for a project. I like to start a project I’m working on and just jam away for a few minutes, but in doing so, I’m messing up all parameter values across the tracks. Would be nice with the equivalent of Func+No to get back to where you started. I wouldn’t want to give up the neat auto save though.
If I do want to venture down that path. I copy the project to a new project, and this new project is the one I can just mess with and still keep the original in tact.
But I do agree with you. I was recording off my Circuits that other day, and I prefer the workflow you describe on them. Where you can decide what you want to save, rather than having to hit undo 30 times!
Yeah that I’ve tried and it can work for those parameters you don’t jam freely on. But that doesn’t solve the issue of messing up other parameters when jamming. Making a new project is a good idea. And in all fairness it’s not a huge issue anyway. Just something I’d love to see.
What I’d really love to see is the ability to record a jam along with mutes, live play on pads, clip progressions and encoder twists and have that saved into the Ableton Live arrangement view.
Move is great as kind of a sampling workstation/sequencer, but it’s frustrating me as a songwriting sketchpad. My partner was playing bass in bed last night so I grabbed the move and made a little beat… and then what? I really wish it had audio tracks and audio looping but even if it did it doesn’t have enough inputs, no mic preamps, etc.
We often start with a bassline and then loop it and add a beat, and then we jam on top with guitar, vocals, and synth. As far as I can tell there’s nothing that is compact and battery powered with at least 4 inputs, ideally a couple that can handle mic or instrument level, but also can loop audio.
The 1010 Blackbox seems cool but only 1 input. The Bluebox has plenty of inputs but can’t loop. and neither can be battery powered. Boss RC-505mkII? But it seems too big.
And then using Move just as a drum machine & synth, and recording everything as audio onto another device totally defeats the Live integration aspect.
I really hope Ableton someday makes another hardware variation that’s more of a portastudio with multiple audio inputs and at least a couple of combo jacks. Because recording audio is a major part of the sketchbook phase for me and I assume a lot of other musicians.
Heard back from decksaver about my email enquiry for ableton move decksaver. About letting them know that the decksaver needs to cover the power button and be protected etc.
They wrote back with:
"Thank you for your interest in Decksaver products.
We’re on it. Production starts next week and will all have the power button protected.
Thank you for considering Decksaver for your protection needs. We look forward to keeping in touch!