what really bugs me is that there is a bug in (all?) elektron devices, the pattern change bug where it sends the message too late. happens when you use different length in one of the tracks. the change length parameter doesn’t work like it should.
also there is a bug in the analog fours that the analog clock out skips sometimes(happens only if the analog four is synced to other devices i think) not fun if you want to sync your eurorack for instance.
elektron knows about these bugs. what is especially bad is that the manual and the specs say that it is possible, probably resulting in many people trying and failing to use these features wasting their time instead of making music.
I’m not aware of this exact bug. The Pattern change behavior has some weird behaviors tho’ for sure.
I can understand Elektron’s seeming reluctance to change it. They’d have to:
change a fundamental feature on every device in their range
in a way that doesn’t break compatibility with all existing patterns on all devices
testing in a huge range of cases on every device prior to release
get it “right first time” for all users of all gear
I wouldn’t want to do that task either.
To their credit, they have changed the DNII and DTII Scale page to have “change length” and “reset” rather than “master length” and “change length”. This is a step in the right direction so maybe they’ll eventually fix the other issues.
But to add something to the faith part. ”Humans are incomplete, full of errors, prone to failures and some contain bugs. When will there be an update? Im loosing faith to humanity. Bring on the AI”
Elektron has addressed all relevant bugs so far, and the machines are performing exceptionally well. Crashes are rare, and the devices complement each other beautifully. The sound quality is excellent, and the sequencer is outstanding.
It’s not a DAW, nor does it aim to be one. The resale value of Elektron devices has historically been high, though it has dipped slightly with the release of the DT2 and DN2. That said, there’s no need to sell these devices—they’ve always been solid and will continue to be. Even 20 years from now, you’ll still be able to create unique and innovative music with them, much like a TR-808 remains a classic to this day.
There are always features some users might wish for that aren’t implemented, but that’s fine—those features were never part of the package you purchased.
Overbridge, while delayed, is now available and surpasses anything else on the market.
Ultimately, no one is forcing you to buy Elektron products. Behringer, Roland, and Korg also offer excellent gear with great support. (Okay, I’m joking about that last part!)
If you don’t like the new devices: Just use the old ones.
I’ve had really good live sets with the DT2 without any problems.
hmm, I think the artists have changed, but elektron not so much. which is not really a criticism pointed only at elektron.
I have the feeling that some people on here would love an all in one, instant autechre box. im really not interested in this myself. although, I like this better than the urge for 80s retro, lo-fi stuff.
a big point where companies can innovate these days, are the musical interfaces.
Sean booth said in an interview, that at one point they felt they had done everything with their elektron gear, so they moved onto the next thing. that gives me the impression, they didn’t seem to look at their devices as an instrument. I never get tired of playing the piano
im still rocking my digitakt 1, waiting to buy the digitakt 2 when it feels ripe enough to me
these devices are great for what they do. and if I want to think outside the box, I actually get back into the box these days. with max/msp, iOS apps, osc controllers, ai tools. its all great for what it is. the art for me, is to be able to mix the old/new, beautiful/ugly, smart and stupid in order to get an interesting collage and have fun while doing it.
so, yeah. right now, I wait for the next dt2 update. and battalion & blofeld on iOS ;D
You might be surprised by how significantly the extended possibilities—such as infinite samples, 16 stereo tracks, and 3 LFOs—enhance the journey toward achieving the perfect result. However, exploring all these options inevitably takes much longer. In contrast, embracing limitations can act as a powerful catalyst for creativity.
(…Though I must admit, I would never consider downgrading…)