Classic drum machines

Also one LFO per channel is a missed opportunity. Modulation is a real weak point of the Rytm, it would be incredible with 2 or 3 LFOs per track. As far as I know, they are digital LFOs so not sure why more were not put in.

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The analog overdrive and filter sound great to me, certainly better than the digitakt and digital filters

Compressor and distortion are great, I’ll have to disagree on the filters though.

I thought about this for a second when recommending the Rytm, the one LFO. The search here is for immediate / simple / quick in a drum machine, correct? Other quick and simple machines will probably not be that different in this regard?

Rytm is not quick and simple. It is for doing simple stuff but there is a ton of depth to it. Not simple at all. Rytm is not the right machine for quick and simple as there are machine 1/6 the price which offer decent sounds and simplicity.

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You could pick up the relatively cheap TR-06 (which has some 808 and 909 sounds included, if I’m not mistaken), then spend a good while creating your own unique samples by pushing the sounds through a bunch of different FX. After that, move it on for close to what you paid. Just an idea.

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I find Rytm very quick and simple. Plus much more. But different strokes for different folks.

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the filters on the rytm sound daaamn good to me! i don’t like the synth drum engine but when i had it i frequently used the LPF to push some perc samples back in the mix, it worked wonders.

Although it is well laid out, it is so deep in features that it can’t be defined as simple or intuitive imho, i mean just compare with a TR-8s, night and day …

Okay okay I yield

Back to topic :grin:

There’s something to be said about super straight forward drum machines that sound good pretty much everywhere.

808/909 each have some sound that will always sound good in a mix; they layer well, and I find it hard to get bored processing 808 sounds with distortion, filters delays etc…

A friend of mine has an 8raw8 he’s sequencing with his pyramid going into pre’s and eq included with his Apogee interface and it sounds AMAZING. Best of both worlds :slight_smile: This machine is heavy as fuck with big knobs and a sound to die for if you like 808.

I have a Jomox Alphabase that I find is a perfect mix between old school (the looks, the knobs, the sounds, the PUNCH) and more modern (the p-locks, the samples, the deep synthesis options)

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Well that’s for your creativity to work on.
New and interesting doesnt always come from sound design, it comes from composition also.

Theres a reason the classic drum machines are called classic. Especially the TR machines. Those sounds just work. In pretty much any mix. Theres very little work to be done. The sounds hit the right spot everytime.

Is it sounds you are after or workflow? Ive not had it long, but the Digitakt is pretty good balance of both worlds.

Thanks for your reply. I had a digitakt previously, but I’m considering it again. When I had it I was trying to use it for everything (drums and synths) - but now I have an OT and so having a digitakt dedicated to drums might be a more focused workflow.

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It’s like you are reenacting the pitch meeting for the Model: Cycles.

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You’ve got a bit of a paradox.

On one hand nothing new or interesting is going to come out of analog drum synthesis.

On the other hand, the sample based Elektrons you have allow for more creativity with using those sounds in interesting ways, but you don’t enjoy fiddling with samples.

I think the only answer here is a 60s Camco or Ludwig set and a few mics, :wink:

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or a zoom street box 246 with a Cooper fx and red panda tensor pedals

I like fiddling with samples but I have an issue with searching through lists and lists of samples. It’s my issue, I know… I need more self control in selecting a few choice samples.

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oh man, @adamjay has got you covered.

Take the time to cull the ones you like and turn them into chains.
You can make some of those chains kits, and others round robins.

It would only take an afternoon and then your OT could shine for what it is more than carbs able of being: an incredibly powerful 8 track stereo drum sampler with two insert FX per channel. That’s hard to beat. It only takes a little mise en place. Soooo worth it.

The included chains with the MK2 content, from samples from Mars, are already good to go for static slots (I extracted and resliced some of them with Octachainer to get them 1/3rd the size for Flex slots.)

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I’m trying to find the post where you spilled the beans about your sample organizing heuristics, but I’m having a little difficulty tracking it down.

I’m not quite as meticulous, but having a few well organized sample chains has paid dividends when using the OT.

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Then dont.
Make chains (eg one ‘kit’ per chain) or, just load up all the drum sounds you like (up to 128 on a OT or DT etc) and stick to that. 128 is way too many for me at least. Simple.

Then create your own sounds via resampling after that= create your own kits.

Rinse and repeat.

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