European union mandates USB-C for charging ports

My Aeropex bone conduction headphones have a MagSafe-like charger. It sticks to anything ferrous that gets near it. Good solution for waterproof headphones, but I would hate it on more devices.

imo the weakest point of lightning connector is being proprietary and no one besides apple can implement it. the market share of apple devices worldwide is pretty low, so it’s no wonder that it’s being forced out in order to make a standard one.

yes, usb-c if pretty fragile, my macbook pro connectors got bent within first week of use, while lightning connectors are going strong for years, but eventually usb-c is far more convenient, as one cable can do multiple devices.

as for wireless charging, i’ve actually moved to use this for the i-phone, airpods and my apple watch (which is wireless only either way) and it works pretty good, the thing is that not every wireless charger can charge same things, and eventually i need several charging pads anyway, which defeats the purpose of having single cable… so stupid…

either way, unifying connectors for mobile devices is a pretty strong argument, so I’m glad they are doing it, and imo it’s apple’s fault that usb-c is the chosen one instead of lightning…

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Agreed!

Will we not have to buy new devices to take advantage of this “USB-C standard charging cable” , I
somehow doubt I will be able to use it to charge my 15 year old Dell laptop!

Apple Inc were one of the Specification Work Group Contributors for the USB Type-C Cable and
Connector Specification, so they probably did not view it as a competitor to the lightning connector.

Here is my anecdotal experience:

I prefer USB C over the lightening connector… I always gotta jiggle that shit on my iphone to get it to charge/connect, I don’t have that problem on my samsung.

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all I was saying is that making lightning proprietary for so long is imo the #1 reason why usb-c is being chosen… of course everything has advantages and disadvantages and nothing is perfect, personally I would like for lightning to be more popular and be the standard, because all my usb-c plugs are bent and none of my lightning are, but it’s clearly will never happen if 85% of every mobile device on the planet already has a usb-c connector…

maybe if they wouldn’t make it proprietary in the first place and it was already implemented in every android phone it could potentially the candidate for be the chosen one…

anyway, I’m pro unification and it’s a very good move, can’t wait for it to become the standard in every ~100W device!

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To all the people saying that the government shouldn’t be involved in this, i recommend you read The Prophet From Silicon Valley, about Sequential. In the discussion about the creation of MIDI, a really good point is made that standardizations such as MIDI spec basically never happen in any industry without being forced, it’s impossible to get these companies to coordinate to make consumer friendly choices unless they are absolutely required. MIDI was an exception because of what an open minded and ambitious person Dave was, and a bunch of other factors at the time that can’t easily be replicated in another industry. We can’t depend on 1/1,000,000,000 people like Dave Smith to exist to help make universal standards, especially in the multi billion dollar wasteful cell phone world. Government intervention into ecological destruction is a good thing. If apple don’t want USB C as a standard, they shouldn’t have adopted it in the first place, and shouldn’t have engineered planned obsolescence into all their garbage.

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It was Roland founder Ikutaro Kakehashi who proposed the idea of developing an interface standard that resulted in MIDI.

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Very true, and i’m not an expert on the culture of japanese commerce so i won’t make any claims there, but in the West, getting a company to adopt any kind of standard was said to be near impossible. Oberheim and EMU weren’t on board until it was too late. The predominance of Roland and Korg was a big help in getting these other companies to adopt it.

Now if we can just get them to ban soft touch TPE coating and over bright blue LEDs, that’d be great.

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I mean … yes, but only if your aim is “take advantage of a new charger”. That’s not why most people buy phones and tables. If your old device still works, keep using it.

I somehow doubt I will be able to use it to charge my 15 year old Dell laptop!

So keep using your existing charger for that laptop. The law only applies to new devices being manufactured.

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.

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Could you imagine what a disaster a multiple MIDI physical standard could be? It’s amazing USB has undergone so many forms.

https://www.usb.org/members
Membership is cheap :robot:

have you checked that there isn’t lint in the port? This can happen. A safety pin can dig it out.

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If you read the comments by Anna Cavazzini MEP it sounds like this agreement surpasses sliced bread.
The reality is that it doesn’t.

Instead of jumping to connector types, the EU should have started by mandating that the plug go on the top of the phone instead of the bottom.

Hm so if you need a new usb or lighting cable for old midi interface or older iphone that works perfectly fine, you can not buy these and are forced to buy a new device?

EU being EU

Soon on eBay: vintage lightning cable’s for 150€

Instead of regulating a bunch of cables, they should implement laws like “the right to repair” or the “right to change your bloody battery”

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You’d expect supply of cables to be supported for a reasonable amount of time - for example, you can still buy the old 30pin connector.
Even if you can’t buy the standard on-piece cable , presumably there will be a market for converters until demand falls off?
It seems like a reasonable way to migrate to me

With you on the right to repair and battery replacement

Think of the convenience: your ‘shroom guy will soon be your cable guy too.

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