This is fantastic news.
Iâm feeling this new digitakt might be the closest we get to an Octatrack mk3/2
and it might in some ways be more fully featured than the Octatrack. Or at the very least more functional.
I think if this thing just had 4 outs and 4 ins it could replace my Octatrack.
The ability to load longer samples is a huge plus even with the small 1 minute sample time for recording.
Iâm still very happy with my Octatrack but maybe weâll never see the improvements for it that people have hoped for and itâs hit the end of its life cycle
I think so too.
Was just looking at this old thread and thinking about the best tool for actually building songs with and I think the dt2 beats the Octa. At least in terms of actual space to build out tracks:
Plus, sound locks pull from the hard disk right? Regardless of whatâs loaded to the audio pool
Or does the imported sound list share the +drive space with the audio pool/imported project samples? Never fully looked into that
Or the excellent DigiChain tool!
Static machines on the OT allow you to stream very long files from the CF card, so space isnât really that much of a concern. The RAM is just there for live sampling/looping.
but then you need to send midi velocity informations ?
Has anyone tested the new DT][ with LoopCloud?
Havenât seen it mentioned anywhere, but is sampling through an effects loopback feasible on V2? Not being able to re-sample a loop through external HW without creating a feedback loop was one of my biggest V1 frustrations.
From an external controller, yes. Or, you can p-lock âVELâ on the âTRIGâ page.
sorry, this is a little O-T, but the way i use it, as like a malleable digital â4-trackâ ind of dictates that i waste 2-4 tracks and all available ram as im recording loops in as i go to act as layers to build on which i then arrange into a track. or thats what i attempt to do anyway. i suppose i could save them all as i go, switch to static track, then build from there but it takes away some of the flexibility of the workflow. maybe i just need to rethink my process with it
on another note;
imagine this is your first sampler/centerpiece-brain in a dawless setup after messing around with ableton, being used to Simpler and Drum Rack and limitless tools and space and instead of trying to choose between the octa or the dt or the sp404 or the mpc live, you get your hands on this thing
i wish it was around when i first started buying hardware. would have been a gamechanger. im much too anxious and ocd to be constantly purging my audio pool and leaving things in an impermanent state
its a pretty cool time to be a gear dork
Do we know whether the reverb and the delay on Digitakt II are the same with the ones on old generation? I mean soundwise. Also, how about bitcrush, SRR, overdrive?
First day first hand experience
Itâs the 2nd day to be honest, it took several hours to transfer selected sample library to the machine (0.33 MiB/s), but within the first 24 hours since unwrapping
Build quality, outer perimeter contact
- on par with previous Elektron machines
- i. e. very (!) high quality but not perfect:
- level/data knob not 100% centered
- SRC button slightly different looking on the surface
- pretty much like DT1
- i. e. very (!) high quality but not perfect:
- ratio page LED/active knob LED/background LED not balanced for my eyes and environment (too bright/just right/too dim)
- white screen - matter of taste, I liked the yellow much better and had wished for an amber one (like the Toshiba T3100 gas plasma display
- will get used to it
UX/UI
- takes a while to get used to extra page for FX
- confuses me sometimes between ST (extra FX block) and old DT (most important things on one (Amp) page
- will see
- multi-pages: reckon this is a way to go with more parameters - but feels a bit like entering Roland territory
- future will tell if I develop new muscle memory or if I will just avoid functions on extra screens/submenus as with the Roland machines (why I sold TR8S and donât fall in love with SP-404)
Overall experience, first thoughts
- feels like a legit DT
- sounds like a legit DT
- more sample slots in a project are great!
- stereo sounds really good on samples with stereo chorus and sampled from vinyl records
- the new filter is not my friend - accidentally I found out how to go to legacy, couldnât find it again without manual
- what I made so far doesnât sound like the DT imprint in my head - but that may just be preception bias by white display
the good and improved
- new retrig routine is better
- chorus is a nice add on - didnât find a sample yet where I really liked it
- more LFOs are always appreciated
- more steps (128) could be useful - if it had some kind of easy transposition of tracks
- master overdrive
- NOT trig conditions!!!
- load and save presets!!
- Kits!!
- Performance Kits!!
- much more drive+ memory (fits my whole standard lib)
- 16 slots are great !! (like 6 to 8 for basic drumset, then still anough room for rhythmic loop, atmo, drone, noise, pad, hit, stab, chord)
the same good stuff as in DT
- sequencer with all the good Elektron stuff, trigless trigs, LFO S/H, sequencer logic
- song mode
- compressor
- BRR
- SRR
- overdrive
- filter with EG
- LFO magic
the same grrr stuff as in DT
- tune parameter either free or in octaves (not semitones or useful intervals)
- no sample editing (for minimal shortening of loops for example in werp)
- only even bar numbers in werp (Detroit style techno is polyrhythm! grrr)
- no transpose parameter per track
- no transpose melody tracks (for using different patterns for that purpose, EBM needs that!)
- no live transpose of selected tracks
- AFAIK no transpose parameter in song sequencer (?)
- no modulator tracks (for modulating other tracks polyrhythmically or with LFOs)
- sloooooow sample transfer rate
- missing great melodic functions from DN (like arp and polyphonic stuff - would be even great for midi only)
- no easy choke groups (like which track chokes which ther track, the tracker style approach (CC, OH or BD , SD in one lane) from DN works but with more tracks a proper choke function would be great for many (or an easier way to set trigs with just another sample in a track without the need to hold down trigs for conditions or copy trigs each time).
not yet explored
- page loop
- euclidic sequencer
- midi learn CC
- prepared mute groups
not yet there
- overbridge (miss it really)
bugs (1.01)
- autopreview does not play the first sample
- if you select a sample from the list (yes, checker mark), it advances one sample down the list - but does not preview the next sample - and so you miss it or have to go back
prob no bugs but somehow strange
- auto-preview cannot be selected globally but has to be initiated again and again (didnât understand the pattern yet, if it is in/out sample menu or per folder)
- first sample will not be played in auto-preview (maybe a safety measurement for live shows?)
- -> would rather have a global setting for auto-preview, and if there would be a live show, I would just turn it off
Overall impression
- I like it a lot (but donât find it freaky
- I will not sell my DT (yet)
- really improved
- but not sooo much smile as when ST came
- no instant magic as with e.g. model:cycles (I know itâs different)
I feel like I have to post some clarifications about page loop and how it works and why it might seem to act weird, it works the same as on the Rytm but might appear more strange because of the amount of pages.
- It loops the selected pages for ALL tracks
- Not possible to exclude tracks from looping (unlike Rytm)
- If all selected pages are outside the range of a track, that track plays normally.
- It always plays in a forward direction, no matter the order you select the pages.
It works by doing a modulo operation of the active step.
This means that the sequencer is running normally in the background, and the step that is going to be played is chosen from a âmaster playback positionâ.
So if youâre looping page 2, but have 4 pages, when you start playing normally you could end up on any page if youâre not careful. The play position ends up where it would have been was the pattern played normally.
Maybe there should be some indicator where the âmaster positionâ is so itâs possible to see where you would end up.
I hope this clears it up a bit.
Admittedly, it kind of bugs me that I didnât make time to accept Elektronâs invite to show up at their office this winter. I have a feeling, this is what theyâd show me.
This is the gods of hardware punishing me for going daw.
And I deserve it.
Am I the only one whoâs incredibly excited to have 16 levels? Takes me back to my origin days on the MPC.
Iâm sure my invite got lost in the mail
I hope to get my hands on a DT2 soon!
(almost there)
@elektron Did i see correctly that there are now two midi cc screens available per midi track?! Nice with the midi learn function, a real time saver!
Is there also a ârandomiseâ option available for the chosen midi parameter values? (e.g. for editing/randomising external hardware instruments/vsts presets by any chance, like a FUNC YES)
And would it be possible to playback a midi track on the DT2 and at the same time record/sample the input? Resampling external gear/vsts.
Monitoring? For e.g. recording/sampling a guitar while the track plays in the background?
That would be amazing
Stoked about the new DT2! I figure i just have to load it up once with all my fav samples/old projects and then i can turn off my daw forever (when it comes down to the producing part)
Will there be an Elektron survival battery pack to take the DT2 along on journeys off-grid? Like with the MyVolts cable which needs a more powerfull battery pack to make it work.
Is the SONG mode also available on the DT2?
bra jobb !
Cheers
And Iâm sure they realised they asked the wrong dude and got relieved when I said I couldnât make it
youâre too kind, they would have been lucky to have ya
Yes, even with a dedicated button - lower left corner.