Are there good jam/song (except the official demo) that we can hear yet?
Itâs no longer just an FM synth though, thatâs the point of WaveTone & Swarmer machines. Itâs a polyphonic digital synth not a polyphonic FM focused synth.
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Here is some DNII fun ^^
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Exciting!
Are you going to use anything for mastering or just the machines straight to DB4?
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Yes i know but the core remains FM. And the sound.
I think you are wrong.
Euclidean sequencer was introduced less than a year ago iirc.
The new paradigm for recording 16-step chords with a note-level detail is awesome.
There is also the way that CTRL-AL, compression, track layering are set, now: new UX that is very promising.
The UX side is where the Elektron shine, together with the sound.
On both aspects, we have new things which have been thought to have a workflow as fast as possible.
Letâs underline that there are now many ways to have and tame noise, which were unseen in previous boxes.
This is, IMO, innovation.
What is not innovation is offering a critic about an instrument you havenât played yet. So passĂ©. 
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If you think about implementing it robustly within all the sequencer constraints youâll see itâs not trivial at all, this is my own conclusion for this implementation
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I disagree. If the core was FM it would have been advertised as such and we would have got a second FM machine that did things like 6OP with additional algorithms. WaveTone has 3 pages of parameters, and there is some shared DNA in parameters, but also many parameters there of which I see are present for the first time in an Elektron instrument.
Even if you want to compare WaveTone to something like Syntakt machines with 2 oscillators, I am not aware of anything where you can adjust detune and volume for 2 oscillators independently which stops the Syntakt from replicating a lot of classic sounds.
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Thank you!
Sounds very nice, congrats! Did you apply some external effects?
Totally agree. I liked yellow screens a lot and also these colorful track buttons in DN.
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Indeed 
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hmm i donât know⊠the sounds in the videos available are all kind of meeh⊠please someone post a proper sound-design video of the dn2 asap!
Iâm not saying it is trivial, few things are, but applying note quantisation as the last thing before triggering a voice doesnât seem beyond the realm of possibilities. OT does a good enough job of it but ofc that is a completely different product. 
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Not an FM ninja, but I was never satisfied with hats / snares / claps from the OG. Can anyone comment on any improvement with the new machines?
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watching the loopop video and its pretty wild how far its all come, track layering, prepare mutes, toggling which tracks are ctrl all and transpose, itâs all so flexible, and with the 16 tracks it makes a lot of sense.
honestly I get a lot done with 8 tracks, so 16 really opens up creative ways to move forward in a single pattern before you even switch.
Iâm slowly becoming quite enamoured by this thing. I expect I will probably grab one but might wait until the dust settles in a couple months and hopefully OB drops for it also
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The most tempting small box for me. I was very curious about DN already, and this raises the game a bit. (I never tried this box format yet)
Still, I think I will pass.
Biggest miss for me is when it comes to FX/routing.
I would miss greatly:
- another set of outputs, or at least:
- mnm-like FX/bus tracks. I want to set my own routing to FX, sends seems very limiting.
Of course OB solves this, but I buy hardware gear to avoid software.
This, and 8 pages, and 16 tracks, seems really fantastic. Also very curious about it as a midi sequencer.
How so? Is ctrl Al different now? And how is track layering?
Maybe I should download the manual
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@LyingDalai @Gino Per MIDI track or is there a dynamic allocation?
16x16 notes possible ?
The new paradigm for recording 16-step chords with a note-level detail is awesome.
Yes this sounds interesting even if Iâm not a huge user of chords, but for sure being able to reproduce the chords played, the way they actually were when playing them is awesome.
Overall, as previously a UI/UX designer myself (Frontend dev now). I do feel that the UX on both DT II and now DN II has improved massively toward a more logical, more segmented approach making it so much more intuitive to find the different things. (obviously was fine with the old ones after using it a long time but for new comers is not logical).
Letâs underline that there are now many ways to have and tame noise, which were unseen in previous boxes.
This too, that so much more intuitive than trying to play with the feedback of one operator to get an average noiseâŠ
Really excited to try also WaveTone and Swarmer.
I guess I have less use for FM Drum but who knows, I might sample this to my DT II (Separation of concerns :D).
Anyways, mine was just sent now by Thomann and should arrive on Saturday, really excited
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@Elektron could you please make the DN2 Web Playlist so that it auto jumps to the next song?
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take a chromatic cluster of notes - apply +3 to scale correct that cluster, now apply -3 to the new very differently spread cluster - you donât end up where you were ⊠itâs destructive without memory ⊠itâs not destructive when done as itâs implemented
you can do it robustly for single notes (where it works as desired), but like i said, imho, thereâs no simple fix to make transposition of patterns or tracks as robust - plus having pattern key modulation is in itself cool
if the OT can do chordal transposition cleverly on MIDI tracks then there could be a path forwards in this regard - but keep in mind, these trigs can accommodate 16 notes now (they have to be all different) - try transposing a random cluster of sixteen chromatic notes into a pentatonic scale - what happens ???