NDLR - A Multi-Part Polyphonic Arpeggiator by Steven Barile

I think we all owe you a thank you for reviving this zombie thread, and making us all give our NDLRs some attention again.
(mine is dustyAF)

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No word on what the new features are yet, I guess? Also unclear if they’ve fixed the remaining open bugs. I have a lot of sunlight for the team, but it still felt like a slightly disappointing project. I hope they can redeem it now.

Looks like so far the V1 and the V2 will be identical in terms of features. The only reason they released the V2 is because the chip used in the V1 isn’t available anymore.

In other news, they finally released a new firmware a few days ago.

Improvements:

1. This new version adds the Interval mode (Shift-menu Encoder 3)

2. Added velocity settings to the Rotator algorithm. These can be changed in Pattern 40, Steps 12 -16. Steps 12 = Vel for Parallel Note, 13-16 = Vel for Rotation Notes 1-4.

3. Changed ā€œPanicā€ from using CC120 ā€œAll Sound Offā€, to use a less forceful CC123 ā€œNotes Offā€ which Mutes all sounding notes, but maintains release time.

4. Added support for Poly Aftertouch Pressure

5. Added Program Change to MIDI Controller (shift+menu, encoder 4). In the MIDI Controller edit screen if CC2 = 127 then Program Change MIDI message will be sent rather than CC messages.

Bug fix:
Fixes misc. issues with the Rotator Algorithm (Shift-menu Encoder 2)
Fixes an issue with saving CC destinations in the Mod Matrix

See video instructions for the Interval mode and Rotator Algorithm at the Conductive Labs YouTube channel here:
https://www.youtube.com/@ConductiveLabs/videos

An updated manual, Version 2.0 (English only currently) available on the download page.

I was thinking of selling it (didn’t use it much, and I have an Oxi One anyway), but maybe I should play with it a bit more now.

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Videos.

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same thoughts haha, poor midicake friends

The update was a breeze, which is always reassuring, so looking forward to exploring again!

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This is so cool!
Honestly, I didn`t expect a firmware update at all (anymore), even if there was this ā€œHome of the Future!ā€-sign on some empty menus.

Now I need some big cheat sheets to be able to play with the interval mode.
Sequencing with a keyboard controller also could be fun.

Thanks for the hints/links @alexwasashrimp @Tchu :happy:

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I really appreciate them still updating this device. While I don’t directly see a usecase for me with the rotator/interval mode, the keyboard modes (third video) look very intesting (are those new in the new firmware?).

However, in contrary to my previous remark, I believe the midicake arp still has something the NDLR doesnt, but correct me if I’m wrong:

  1. the midicake reacts to incoming notes from a keyboard and ā€˜adapts’ to them. in the NDLR, the keyboard is merely used as a controller/remote control
  2. the midicake arp lets you customize the arp pattern manually, the NDLR doesnt.

Or am I wrong?

I am intereted too in that.

You dan design the motifs (arps) freely. As you do with the rhythms. You can then connect any motif to any rhythm.

Firmware update in the pipe for the rev 2 (red chassis) version plus a possible upgrade path for rev 1s:

For users of The NDLR rev2 (with the red base and power switch) we have some exciting new features in the works:

  1. A new creative tool, the Perlin Noise Pattern Generator. Perlin noise is a more subtle form of randomness, and with this feature you can create interesting and out of the box interplay between the two motifs.
  2. Motif Gate control. The NDLR motif’s gate is normally legato. Now you can adjust the note gate length for each motif.
  3. Global save slots have been increased from 8 to 20.

and more to come…

A preview beta firmware with these features is available now in the NDLR Open Beta Firmware forum at forum.conductivelabs.com. If you would rather wait for a final release, stay tuned for announcements on our forum and social media sites.

To owners of the original The NDLR; these features could not be implemented on the original The NDLR due to being out of space for parameter storage. We are planning to offer an upgrade kit to convert the original The NDLR to a rev2 circuit board. Subscribers to our Newsletter will be notified of the details when available, shooting for end of January 2025.

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I received that mail but I will explore the new Chord system on the DN II first.

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I couldn’t find a price so I just thought … well … who cares.

do you think the new Elektron system comes close to any of the features of the NDLR?

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Yeah it can be quite unintuitive if you haven’t used platforms like that before.

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hm. I’m not sure I want to invest more money into this design disaster piece :crazy_face: now that I’m watching a tut about the new DN II chords… it’s probably not necessary as Tchu said… hmm. Guess it’s time to install the update.

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My explorations will start today.

The NDLR is really easy to operate. It didn’t take me long to learn it. It’s a very cool Sequencer.

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I know… but space is limited … and it’s not the most beautiful thing. And for what it does a bit too big.

TL;DR: Time & Space are a limited resource … probably won’t use it again

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