Fader sends (and receives) CC#48.
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Isnât the caveat that external audio cc has to be enabled? I guess that would be obvious, but I think I remember using ableton to send cross fader values to a mega break of doom and having that set to internal only and it wasnât working.
It probably confused me initially because I assumed cc48 was associated with the midi cc and not the audio cc. Derp.
I misunderstood this too in my early days with the OT. As a concept I didnât get what âaudio CCâsâ were, for me CCâs are midi by definition. Thatâs one of those clumsy misnaming issues⌠Once you get the idea that the midi sequencer and the audio sequencer are two totally independant entities that share the same protocol for external interaction (midi) it becomes a bit clearer but better naming of some functions and parameters would have avoided many a grey hair all over the planet.
I use many a scandinavian-engineered product in several domains, but they all seem to share this âIkea-syndromeâ: many convoluted ways to go to the same place, and new names for existing and well-established concepts that make the products look âdeepâ. Theyâre all fine, but often confusing.
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I wanted to do this thing with the MIDI arp and the faderâŚ
but it didnât work.
So +1 for cc and MIDI arp to be implemented in the scenes!
That would be awesome 
Think about the harmonic possibilities.
Audio and MIDI conpkerely in harmony with each other.
Itâs discussed over and over on the forum: it seems that implementing scenes for Midi tracks would choke due to the huge amount of possible Midi ccâs you can have with scenes.
Still as already proposed, they could propose scenes with limited tracks/parameters to keep low the amount of midi data. At least, muting midi tracks would be more than necessary.
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I would love to be able to use crossfader to control even just 4 midi ccâs.
Then I could have scenes where mostly the audio in the octatrack is changing, but also a few eg external reverb parameters. Or lemondrop granular processing parameters.
Send MIDI to control the Octatrack fader, at the same time as sending MIDI to your other stuff!
Easy to setup in Drambo, or similar.
What I want, is an optical fader/xfader that sends MIDI, and can take a lot of usageâŚ
Since the crossefader sends midi and the scene numbers also get sent over midi, you could create something like that with a BomeBox/Midi Translator or similar.
Would probably be a lot of work though, and OT midi control is just as advanced as the device itself.
@Laser Thanks for reminding me to upgrade my Denon DN-X1600 with an Innofader. I also have a couple A&H Xone controllers that might fit one.
+1 for midi processors.
Zoia can be used for that purpose, with min/max.
Lemondrop has midi learn (or specific CC select) OT CC48 sent by crossfader can be used to control parameters.
Forgot about this! Sold my Ocky a while back.
Seem to remember looping the MIDI back and making the Xfader change scenes, lot of fun!
Literally 2 mins work in Drambo!
Will that send MIDI then? Pretty sweet if so!
Anyone know of an optical crossfader that sends MIDI? Or even CV/Expression?
I meant more something like having 16 actual scenes with different assigned values that follow the crossfader and scenes and mix between the values. I donât think that can be done in any software in 2 mins. But a simple assign of the crossfader to a couple CCâs, even different CCâs for each scene shouldnât be too hard indeed.
Didnât know Drambo could do stuff like that, I thought it was just an MPC-like sampler app.
Yes, most mixers can send midi these days. I donât use crossfaders when mixing anyway so this way it can serve a purpose.
I had the same idea as you and searched everywhere for this but it doesnât exist. Theyâre not midi, not optical/magnetic or both.
Best options are retrofitting an Innofader, buying a cheap Behringer mixer/controller(they use optical in some) or DIY an Innofader with a Teensy/Arduino in a guitar pedal box. I bet that with a Teensy you could also get it to work with a replacement Behringer optical one.
Put in some arcade buttons for the scenes and youâre golden. 
This is absolutely 5 mins tops in Drambo! No hyberbole!
The reason itâs so easy, is because Drambo has it all already built in, Xfader, 16 Scene buttons. I presume this part of Drambo was inspired by the Octatrack.
Even adding to the idea a bit, say you want something to thin the data stream⌠itâs literally 2 more modules (LFO module set to square wave, connected to a MIDI N-1 module with one input connected to nothing). Basically an on/off switch for the data stream, flicking on off quickly, halving the data. You could even set it to go in time to the clock, for a more Elektron-style p-locking effect.
Iâve used a fair amount of music software over the years since Octamed/Protracker. Never have I encountered anything like Drambo. Itâs completely amazing!
Been a long time since I used a DJ mixer! Quite a lot to spend just for that one task though. Iâd probably just get an Octatrack in that case. Good to know though!
Iâve been banned from DIY by the Interglactic-Society-Against-Wonky-Shelves 
I did see an Expression Slider made by OldBloodNoiseEndeavours. Itâs cheap though, which probably means it wouldnât last.
The search continues⌠Maybe a Qu-Neo?
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Not sure of what you mean but I could assign 4 scenes zones (4 pairs) to the crossfader, with midi loopback and midi processor.
Works really well, good interpolation even if resolution is divided by 4. Poor quality, you can see the scenes zones @1mn iirc.
I also did something similar adding part changes with patterns, not practical at all.
I have an OT MKI to sell for cheap.
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At least being able to somehow mute MIDI tracks thru scenes would be great.