Punk 2021

It is, but mostly for Sonic porn.

Maybe that’s the new punk…

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More people are tuned in than ever, I’ll take that as a positive.

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Catgirls are definitely the new punk!*

I recall when they were tuning Google Image Search badly and all that would come up for any query was a variety of Sonic porn and Catgirls, because Deviantart had some mega-score in their algorithm. (Fuck Getty’s move in 2016.)

Hardly 2021 but I miss Brainiac-


*Just ask Natalie Wynn.

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absolutely agreed

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I’ve got a friend that likes to say he’s a fox.

Maybe that’s the new punk

Maybe the new punk is the friends we made along the way

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Of course it’s always been there in one form or another. But a spark like the Rodney King beating or the death of George Floyd turns it into open revolt. This will enter music soon enough!

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Like it already has consistently

Even old punk was a commercial product.

People put too much stock in “punk” as though it wasn’t always a fashion statement of faux-rebellion.

The Music Market was just the higher ups peddling consumables to the idealists. Punk, hip hop.

Anything underground is infinitely more legitimate and shouldn’t be soiled by classifying it as “punk”

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Over here music evolution stopped when the poker machines popped up in music venues. With that noisy outpouring of creative sound and community spirit, some people couldn’t enjoy a drink while they flushed their money down the toilet. The music had to go.
But I’m here to tell you @mokomo to fear not! Online gambling is here to get those pokie junkies out of the old venues and keep them at home where they belong, drunk and alone. Then the upstanding punks of the community will bring everyone together again in those venues, where we’ll breed like geriatrics on viagra a new generation of Neo-Post-Punk acolytes to develop their own assault on TV talent shows :v: out.

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I’ll can attest to that! My nephew is 10 years old and he’ll listen to shit on YouTube that’ll make your ears bleed. I’m fascinated because I’m feel like this is some new noise core, thing is it’s not even musical. It’s just pure distorted screams coming from these YouTube channels that have legions of young followers.

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There’s a definitely a new wave coming if not already here but we might not be a part of it. Also because of the endless availability of everything maybe the lifecycle is shorter. Styles come and go faster then we can keep track. As for as any relevant art, it’s all on YouTube and Instagram and of course we don’t get or understand it at all.

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There is no bubble to burst, and the people that most want a new and interesting music are out there making it. To claim that culture is dead you have to have given up on looking for life. You think culture is dead? Find people who think similarly and start a new one.

Contemporary folk music necessitates the continuous invention of music. To think of genres as of a time ignores the cyclic nature of progression. New music is invented with the tools left from the old music; dub is birthed using the abandoned BBC equipment left after the British colonisation of Jamaica.

I think of traditional genres more as archetypes of exploration. Certainly, the majority of ways of creating or capturing sound have been invented. When was the last time a truly new form of sonic generation occurred? Traditional genres are the next step, symbols of instrumentation, methodology, concepts, rules, heritage of sound. The primary colours, the edges of a spectrum.

The digital age has rendered genre less meaningful. Accessibility to music has never been greater, capturing and creating music has never been easier. Genre in the traditional sense is outdated; the easiest and most expedient way of explaining how something sounds is to provide means to listen. The combination of everything; the accessibility to any music, the potential to create, has made genre more personable and less defined. The blur is where things get interesting.

Take for example: mccraven on the mic by Makaya McCraven, from a mixtape showcasing parallel folk developments from Chicago and London. Jazz and HipHop’s respective influences are all over the entire thing, twisting into each other; what does distinction matter anymore?

There is nothing new under the sun, but I fucking love that it’s rare a week goes by without me finding something that sounds so new and beautiful to me that I grin like a fucking mad man. And for the sake of demographic being of some importance; late 20s male UK.

You want to hear something new? Tune in to https://noodsradio.com/ for a week.

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Don’t gloss over the gaming community that’s where the art is now.

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“Speak for yourself, geezer!”

- me, who is still rocking music from 2003 as though it was released yesterday whine ignoring that was almost 20 years ago

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Regarding punk specifically; as has been mentioned, seeing it as a commodity or an era is a mistake, in my opinion. The motive, being furious at the malice of the world, the injustice and oppression, will be around as long as those things are. Another place where contemporary folk music will dominate.

@craig if you want to hear the most sheer righteous fury you’ve ever heard in electronic music look no further than black nationalist sonic weaponry and it’s opening track amerikkka’s bay. Artists like Yves Tumor have been doing similar for time, and i’m sure many others are already flying this flag high.

In my town a local band shot their video by just playing for 2 hours straight with their gear on a table in the middle of the crowd, in the same way they tend towards at gigs:

Punk has always been anger, resistance, but it’s expression musically acts to bring people together, to be angry, sad, and fucked up together.

And sometimes to wallow in it. Like ASDA.

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Anything past 1999 is considered new music for me! :joy:

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Sidenote: Lets ignore the fact that making things cheaper does not equal an increase in profits.

For the next 3 and a half hours it’s still bandcamp Friday. Bandcamp is a website where literally anyone can sign up and release music for either pay what you want or a fixed price. Today to aid artists during the COVID pandemic, they waived their 15% fee and all money paid on a digital or physical release goes directly to the artist.

Here is an open list of 2200+ black producers, artists, and labels that was compiled in the last month. Some of those people - and many others - are getting money for the music that they make, during a time when there are numerous threats to their wellbeing. In the case of digital releases, they are getting 100% of the money paid by the consumer. In addition a lot of artists and labels are choosing to donate profits to charity right now.

Where would that support be - for artists, during a global pandemic - if it weren’t for the digital?

The digital revolution has made irrevocable changes to the fabric of culture, and has undoubtedly helped free market capitalism to reach new and dreadful heights. But we are here, now, and lamenting the death of your cultural familiarity is defeatist. If you’re too busy mourning what is gone you won’t find anything worth looking for. Culture isn’t dead; it adapted. It slipped through the cracks.

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eh, I think more great stuff is made than ever before with the exception being movies where funding for mid-tier projects have dried up(it’s all about the block busters) and the barrier of entry is so high that grass roots disruption is virtually impossible. But overall the notion that art was better back in the day seems to be more indicative of a persons age than the times we live in.

Maybe the punk of 2021 is not music but people taking action.

I’m sick of all the nostalgia though.

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I see the David Cronenberg “eXistTenze” film coming true in it’s own way. “Back to reality”, instead of “Back to the land”…maybe both. But, I’ve been wrong before. Believe me.

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