me too. Never expected open source but I really want a way to create user machines even with limitations. Now every time when I’m playing my ST I couldn’t stop thinking about drawing my own pixel animations for each params and programming my own machines.
There’re quiet a lot of things(like norns, organelle, zoia) allow you to run your own “patches” out there but non of them have a lovely sequencer like elektron boxes. Also most of them could not running and sequencing multiple patches at the same time (maybe except organelle). So I think if elektron give us a chance to do that, It’ll turn ST into something truly special. (if the DSP is powerful enough to deal with the suboptimal user machines)
I could see Electron adding some sort of sampling to the Syntakt now that the Digitakt 2 is here and something like a one-shot-sample machine wouldn’t hurt Digitakt 2 sales.
I believe the Syntakt still has the 1gb storage like the OG Digitakt.
as any business based in selling stuff, puting out “mk2” or “II” instead of releasing FW updates for stuff already sold to costumers totally makes sense.
But new iterations or totally new machines must be different/superior enought to convince any rational-critical consumer.
The only company that pull that trick consistenly is Apple with their IPhones… but that is because apple is like a cult or something.
Yep, ST is a synth not a sampler and doesn’t need hardware updates to match parity with a sampler’s generational updates.
As a hybrid beastie you’ll probably see more innovative stuff first. Not that Syntakt isn’t great, but the elements already existed.
Edit: Would be fun if Elektron kept mashing together their synths as they created new ones so Syntakt by any name (or changing down the line) a mutating katamari of features to be a different vibe each time.
If the analog engines had an option to become sample players processed by the analog filter/overdrive, this would open up the doors to wavetable & granular synthesis. This would be very appropriate for the Syntakt IMO.
It’ll be a long time until there’s a MKII of the Syntakt, I reckon. I would be totally open to buying one again, but I’m waiting until Elektron (hopefully) release a major update that adds more sound design parameters to the existing machines. I remember feeling more like I was scrolling through kick drum presets that I could pitch up or down than an actual successor to the Machinedrum. Not that most drum machines offer much flexibility anyways, but you know what I mean…
I would imagine sampling would be more matter of CPU utilization over FPGA design.
If we ignore that processing samples within the digital domain makes the most sense, instead going with “what application of sample or granular data would be possible to implement well using FPGA control over an analog oscillator”, it’d be fun to see how a “digitally controlled/encoded” analog sampler might been implemented.
Of course I do understand how emulators run very well on FPGA, I’m not referring to any devices that run a FPGA to emulate whatever older CPU and ROMs. My interest is more in the relationship between FPGA “machine” and application to analog oscillator, what creatively could be done.
I suppose i need to find reading on building analog samplers to begin with and read up more on the current chips in the ST/AR.
I’m kinda expecting Tonverk to be a bit of the digital side of Syntakt & Digitone + more mixed into one box with the “machines” concept, having that more synth focused, while the Syntakt stays as a almost greatest hits/compilation box of their previous drum synths makes a lot more sense imo
I bought a Syntakt and tried so hard to like it. But with all my existing groove boxes (Korg Electribe EMX-1SD and ESX-1SD) are 128 steps, I just couldn’t get used to the 64 steps. I returned it, and the digitakt II is looking more and more enticing every day, and it just being released, I assume updates for a while.
not sure what’s going on in the minds of people asking for STmk2 after 2 yrs when it took Elektron 7 years to update DT. DT is a lengendary product which ST definitely is not. it still needs to prove itself through updates imo (and i own one)
…it’s not unusual, that once a fw is solid, it takes a while for a next level new one…
i was saying for years, nope, dt won’t see any further updates and boom suddenly the good old dt saw it’s final hyperupdate while the dt2 release hit me as a total surprise…didn’t see that one coming…
but in old tradition, they will defenitly add quite some more new fancy machines and overall workflow gimmicks to the syntakt as it is first…
i don’t expect any sort of syntakt 2 to come around any time soon…
sure, we can count on the fact that any next new device will also feature dt2’s now doubled up sequencer capacity from now on, which is the only real essential changeover in pure hw design, but all not so long ago syntakt purchasers would feel damned dooped, if there would be no next truu new fw update for their devices first…
one step after the other…that syntakt fw update is on it’s way somehow…and when it comes to new products, the ot three, of course with a 128 bar sequencer, is way more overdue…
dt2 is THE sampler now, and in elektrons world, pretty much exactly that forever…
and will see also some more fw updates for sure…
but i can’t imagine any other new productconcept that would still be able to kill, than a truu ot three, that combines perfromance mixer, action sampler, playbackdevice, insert fx, grain games in new fashion and bringing finally the ob connectivity to the whole swedish product family table…
and then, we might see a syntakt2, with those 128 steps, nothing really new standard already by then…
I think it’s unlikely they’ll release two new samplers in direct succession. Also think ST is a bit too new for ST II though. But whatever comes next, I think it will be more of a synth/melodics focused machine and not a sampler or mainly a drum machine.
The immutable physical interface of the Syntakt (sequencer LEDs, lack of dedicated keyboard button) seems inferior to the updated one on the Digitakt 2. I can’t imagine they’d wait years to unify these design improvements.
