Amp envelope section doesn't affect sample, at all

Hi!

Is it supposed to? Whatever i do, sample just always plays like there’s no amp envelope applied at all, while the synth sound is affected. Is that normal?

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It works perfectly fine, you just need to have a non-zero (i.e. not AUTO) Hold Value

If AUTO hold will be as long as the trig - the synth’s own voice envelope is possibly confusing matters too

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With a short sample like a kick or snare the decay can’t go very short. I’ve had problems with this many times, the hold setting is at the wrong end compared to the digitakt…
Pretty sure it’s not working completely correct.

Try set a short decay on a kick sample to make it really short

OK, i got it - i mostly had problem with the attack, and apparently decay affects the attack, so if i set slow attack but decay is too long attack is simply ignored, but if i make decay shorter attack becomes longer…doesn’t make much sense to me yet but there’s probably logic behind this…

or? Maybe what i hear is a reversed sample?hm…

an AHD with settings 0 1 0 respectively will be very short, short enough for everyone except carsten nicolai

i’m not sure what more needs to be said

the Amp envelope works exactly the same on a synth or sample sound and works as expected - set machine to noise, set its decay to infinite - then compare with a long sample - the envelope is affecting both the same - as i stated, ensure not to be tricked by the synth voice’s own engine envelopes and have a non-zero Hold

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The op seems to be talking about something different than I was.

I just tried it and seems like it’s working ok and not how I described.
I swear I’ve had problems with the amp envelope on a few occasions
or maybe I’m losing the plot… :joy: I’ll try figure out what my issue was though

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The amp envelope doesnt reset, this might cause your problem… the attack/decay only effects the sound if the amp is closed before the sound triggers

Its an irritating limitation.

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yes, now i can see it works the same way on both synth and sample, and decay affects the attack.

Wow I just discovered this after breaking my head.
Trying to get a slow decay on a hat sample and it just fades out when putting Attack at max.
I cant find a way to have the envelope trigger per trigger, is there a workaround?

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The only workaround is to make sure the amp is closed before each new trig. If the hold/decay is so long it overlaps with the next trig, that one will play without triggering the envelope.

You could try to use ‘ghost trigs’ just before your trigs which have a very short decay and no volume to make sure the amp is closed I guess… or set the hold value to auto and the note length just short of the next trig.

Ah OK, so with a shaker pattern on every 16th step I just have to make sure the DEC is 0 and HOLD isn’t AUTO.
Thanks! was very weird seeing my sound disappear just due to the envelope.