Anyone using the Hapax sequencer with Elektron gear or Peak?

Hello,

I have a simple home DAWless setup consisting of a Digitone, Digitakt and Novation Peak (oh and a Bluebox 1010 & Keystep).

I was looking at reviews for the Hapax and it looks very interesting, especially the creative side to it.

I really enjoy ambient music and wondered if anyone else is using one to sequence their gear?

The sequencers on the Elektron gear is great, but I’m looking for something extra an inspiring.

Thanks

i don’t do ambient but i sequence my Digitone Keys via Hapax. never muck about with creating patterns in the Digitone tho, just use it basically as a four-voice multitimbral synth and assign each Digitone “Track” (one of the four voices) to it’s own dedicated track in Hapax. works great generally, though i recognize i’m probably not fully exploiting the Digitone to its fullest. just can be arsed to sequence multiple devices and try to get them all to play nicely for a single project from start to finish

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You can check too Oxi One, it has generative stuff, matriceal and stochastic mode. I have the Digitone and I wouldn’t use it as sound module because I would lost a lot of the digitone’s sequencer strengths (parameter and sound locks)

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I do.

I’d be very hesitant to look to a sequencer as a source of inspiration. They ultimately just make midi, and you’re not going to find one that, creation wise, does much more than the one built into your Digis. Dedicated sequencers may offer different interfaces or different workflows, but that’s more a change in scenery than it is inspirational.

I think you’d be much happier with a Hapax (or any dedicated sequencer) if you come up with a list of specific things you currently feel blocked by, then go looking solutions to unblock you. The Hapax is very capable. It may be a part of those solutions. But I don’t think it’s going to inspire those solutions within you on its own.

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Yeah I looked at the Oxi too, looks great. It’s a shame it can’t sequence the parameter and sound locks, but then again the Hapax can’t either.

So do you just get the Oxi to start the Digitone sequencer instead to utilise the parameter and sound locks?

Great advise. I think I’d like to have something to control all on one canvas if that makes sense and the workflow looks fun and very interesting to me when I so Loopop’s review.

Can I ask why you got one? I’m only a home user and do this for just a personal hobby to relax to and learn so I’m not a pro like many on here are.

Hapax can do FX parameter locking on a pattern (clip) basis. so you can lock FX or unlock between two different variations. possibly even on a per step basis, but i’ve never gotten that granular with FX.

Locking effect parameters to patterns
While effect parameters are per-track by default, a pattern may lock an effect parameter to a specific value. Changing the parameterʼs value on another pattern will not change the value on the pattern onto which it is locked.

While an effect is selected and the left screen is displaying the effect parameters, Hold 2ND and Press the associated encoder to toggle the param locking.

Below you can see an arpeggiator effect with 2 parameters locked: Octave and Repeat.

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I’ve never used Oxi to control Digitone because it has no sense, the sequencer of Digitone is enough powerful but it could be fun to sequence in the matriceal mode… I will test it.

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Yes, and this is a very good reason to pick one up. The elektron sequencers are wonderful at controlling themselves, moderately good at controlling other things, and not very good at all for getting a bird’s eye view of the on-box arrangement much less across devices.

The Hapax is pretty good at this, letting you quickly jump between seeing your tracks/devices, (Pattern), notes (Step), and CC modulation (Automation). But I caution you about the “all on once canvas” part. There’s still a lot of jumping around on the Hapax; you can’t see all your Digitone and Peak notes together or even side-by-side as you might do with a DAW. But in a DAWless world having everything in box and a button press away is probably the next best thing.

Oh yes, me too. There are people who jam out with these live, but that’s not me.

Generally, I got one because, after years of focusing on synths and grooveboxes with their own built-in sequencers, I’d started to collect a number of desktop synths without so much as a keyboard (like the Peak!). Specifically, I got into embarrassingly multitimbral ROMplers (like the JV and SoundCanvas stuff) and wanted something hardware that could easily manage 16 independent polyphonic tracks, instrument definitions, preset selection, etc. It’s really good for this. If you want to sit down and compose a whole thing with just, say, a JV-2080, it feels like it was made for it.

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Renoise

Renoise

I couldn’t think of a third thing, but

Renoise

I haven’t used the Hapax with my Digitone yet, but I have used it with many others (Udo Super 6, Iridium, rack mount synths) without any problem. I like the multitrack output, and that I can pass MPE thru it. I just found out thru frustrating troubleshooting that it does not pass poly aftertouch.

Sometimes I will use it to supplement playing on a keyboard MIDI controller.

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Hapax can do just that. Not sure of sound locks, but parameter locks over midi for sure

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You can lock per step whatever you want within automations and assign parameters limit :content:

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Looks good, but I want to be DAWless (mostly) as I use computer screens all day (2 of them) and love time away from a keyboard and mouse.

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The Hapax is so powerful, I’ve just finished watching the Red Means Recording YT video.

I think it would work well with the Digitakt (Drum mode), Digitone and Peak.

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Renoise has custom themes, im sure you can switch it to a black and white theme- and remove the detail from the screen to make it look like a less powerful computer(much like one that is built into the Hapax) :grinning:

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Sure it works well with them (I don’t own a Peak but I can imagine though).
But do you really need it ? I mean, your setup is small but powerfull enough as this. You already have 12 midi tracks with DT and DN to create full of midi parameter locks with in addition the multiples LFO’s. DN as already a chord mode even if it’s not the best.
Just my thought :slight_smile:

I guess it’s like with everything I have I ask that question as to whether I really need it :smiley:

Sure I can live without it and it’s a valid question.

Hapax users using the Rytm. Is it possible to switch kits from the Hapax or do you have to work around by sending a pattern change to the Rytm to load the associated kit?

From the Rytm manual:

MIDI program change messages 0–127 selects pattern 1–128 (A01–H16) on the Analog Rytm

This is the only program change response implemented in Rytm, regardless of your external sequencer (Hapax or any other).

So only through the mechanism you described, by loading the pattern and getting access to the kit associated with it.

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