Hey guys,
anyone have a good idea how to make a track fade in / out automatically?
Kind of like you can do in Ableton with envelopes that don’t re-trigger.
Scenario being in a live performance, I would like to trigger a pattern, and have some of the tracks fade out over time. Let’s say I have a track of a bassline, consisting of many trigs, and I want it to disapear without having to actually pull down the volume of the track.
I guess I could resample the track and make a long envelope and a one shot trig. But that is a bit scary since I would have to remember to arm the track during performance.
I thought I could manage it with LFO and the HOLD option, but I’ve not been able to yet as the LFO resets and it just start over (is this an option somewhere?)
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.
Do you want to totally automate it? If no, you can use crossfader for this with set of scenes. Also you can just turn volume down during recording in live-recording mode to record automation. For fade-in you probably can use Attack parameter of AMP page, but I’m no sure.
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, however, I have allready mapped actual faders to all tracks and could do it manually, but I am usually busy playing other synths, so my goal is to just play the pattern, and let the Octatrack handle the fading. If that is possible
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, however, I have allready mapped actual faders to all tracks and could do it manually, but I am usually busy playing other synths, so my goal is to just play the pattern, and let the Octatrack handle the fading. If that is possible :)[/quote]
Ah, I get it. No idea, then. You could, I suppose, create a string of patterns where you simply record an ever decreasing volume dip on the tracks. But that’d take up pattern space and perhaps be tedious to edit, if you want to make other changes that don’t go with that decrease.
For these kind of longer than 64-steps kind of things, the Octa’s a bit weak, I’d say.
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, however, I have allready mapped actual faders to all tracks and could do it manually, but I am usually busy playing other synths, so my goal is to just play the pattern, and let the Octatrack handle the fading. If that is possible :)[/quote]
You could use a MIDI track with a slow tempo multiplier, a slow LFO set to SYNC ONE or SYNC HALF and a waveform to fade in or out as required, and send the output of that MIDI track either into the OT itself or through whatever unit has the level-controlling faders.
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, however, I have allready mapped actual faders to all tracks and could do it manually, but I am usually busy playing other synths, so my goal is to just play the pattern, and let the Octatrack handle the fading. If that is possible :)[/quote]
You could use a MIDI track with a slow tempo multiplier, a slow LFO set to SYNC ONE or SYNC HALF and a waveform to fade in or out as required, and send the output of that MIDI track either into the OT itself or through whatever unit has the level-controlling faders.[/quote]
Because this would control the faders and not the samples and thus the reset would be cancelled? Right? That’s a real good idea! I have never really explored the midi capabilities. Thanks mate!
Tried to create a scene or set of scenes, with the volume set to the bottom? Then slowly nudge the cross fader as you’re playing, until you’ve hit bottom. That’s how I usually fade tracks in and out.
You can use the XLEV, XDIR and XVOL parameters as you tweak your scenes, to make sure any changes you make in the actual track volume won’t affect your desired effect when you use the cross fader.[/quote]
Thanks for the tip, however, I have allready mapped actual faders to all tracks and could do it manually, but I am usually busy playing other synths, so my goal is to just play the pattern, and let the Octatrack handle the fading. If that is possible :)[/quote]
You could use a MIDI track with a slow tempo multiplier, a slow LFO set to SYNC ONE or SYNC HALF and a waveform to fade in or out as required, and send the output of that MIDI track either into the OT itself or through whatever unit has the level-controlling faders.[/quote]
Because this would control the faders and not the samples and thus the reset would be cancelled? Right?
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… depending on the signal-routing capabilities of your fader unit.
You need to do slide trig with the volume = 0 at the beginning moment and second slide trig with level of volume you need after fade.
mark trigs you have done as slides (function+bank, select slide, mark)
For fading out, route the track(s) you want to fade out into one track with infinite release, and then momentarily pull down the release. For fading in, you could use attack. In both cases you’ll need to trigger that track, probably separate from the sequencer.
The routing for one track is easy - just use a neighbor track. For multiple tracks, you probably want to cue them and then record to a buffer.
EDIT: ugh, sorry, looks like you already mentioned this in the OP! Disregard…
On the OT I want to fade in a track automatically over a long period after I press play. Right now I have an LFO in “ONE” mode with a sawtooth at the lowest possible LFO Rate mapped to Volume. It initializes the Fade in but retriggers on the note retrigger. Is there a way to get it running for one cycle only without retrigger?
I have not done it but from the top of my head I would try to either use Slide Trigs or the same LFO trick you do but make the tempo multiplier to very slow in the Pattern scale page so the LFO doesnt have a change to retrig before the sample is done.
If that doesnt work I feel that going the simple route of just resampling it with the fade in is faster and more effective. Then all you have to do is trig the sample.
Set the scale of the track to be slow enough that the sample finishes at the end of the pattern. Set a trigless trig on the last step with the amp turned all the way down. Slide trig between them? That’s my initial thought.
