I agree. Got a Ventris and really liked the sound, but sold it for this reason… it is just a pita to route and record everything separately and when you want to change the amount of reverb later on during the process, you have to re-record it again…
Try to feedback loop the bigsky, should paint the landscape well
Mix & match 
I have not yet taken the steps to invest in “proper” hardware effects.
This is what I am using:
Send FX 1 to Zoom MS70CDR (return on a stereo channel for feedback loops > great for sound design)
Send FX 2 to Boss DD7
Aux 1 FX to VST (usually NI Raum, NI Replika, Valhalla etc…)
Aux 2 FX to sidechain signal of FMR RNC.
I would love to find the right Reverb and a proper delay. Thinking Strymon, Space etc…
Though I have found myself extremely surprised with the types of algorithm the MS70CDR can come up with. Purists will say it is a joke but comparing a tone drop effect from the 70CDR to a Shimmer on a “famous” one will make you wonder 
Edit: I actually bought a second unit of the MS70CDR.
Will upload an exemple of the Shimmer you can get out of the MS70CDR.
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I’ve not got one, but I reckon the little zoom MS50/70 pedals are about as much reverb/delay/mod as anyone needs. Even the distortion/amp sims are occasionally pretty decent.
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Plus (ignore the click bait preview screen) you can put other algorithms on the Zooms appaz:
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I am just thinking out loud: what is the point in spending hundreds if I am going to use a FX pedal as a send/return effect on my board whereas these pedals are meant to be used as inserts (guitar)?
I mean I am looking at using effects as full wet for returns
Forgive what may seem a lack of knowledge
There isn’t any point, really.
My rules these days, especially where FX are concerned are:
- Does it sound good in my setup.
- Do I like using it.
Every other consideration comes a distant 3rd to the above two.
EDIT: sorry, I misunderstood your post.
The ms70 will not go fully wet as far as I know, so might not work well on a send.
Actually it will 
Some FX can go full wet (some reverbs like HD Hall or delays).
Cannot remember from the top of my head but some of them are.
I had a list of that somewhere… Will try to find it.
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Nice, carry on then…
Apparently, the effects that can go full wet are as follow:
HD Hall
Auto Pan
Reverse Delay
Ring mod
Octave
PitchShift
MonoPitch
Slap Back
Ice delay
Lo Fi Delay
Chamber
Shimmer Reverb
Church
Particle Reverb
Gate and Reverse Reverb
Plate
True stereo in/out:
Slap Back
Auto Pan Delay
Lo Fi Delay
Slow Attack Delay
Church
Tremolo Reverb
Mangled Space
Source: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/1079538-zoom-ms100-ms70-100-wet.html
Also states that: “It’s easy to confirm the delays are true stereo since panning hard left produces delays only in the left channel. The reverbs I included here show some differences even on the 100% wet signals when panning the input. Most other reverbs, although stereo out, seems to ignore input panning.”
Oh wow. That authors own presets are gorge. I really need to get into programming my QV. It sounds so good by default I barely touch the settings.
@Fin25 Agreed on old D/A. Add DP4 and SP303 (incredible verb) to that list.
Yep converters are the key. That and clever programming to make the most of the available DSP (by an engineer at MXR apparently) are why the humble Midiverb II is my fave. Pretty much always on one of the Bloom presets:
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This one sounds very nice too!
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Been using Zynaptiq Adaptiverb a lot lately. Don’t know anything like it in hardware. As the name suggests it adapts to the source material using a granular engine.
hi there,
do you refer to the shift line a+ astronaut III?
and if you are in Europe where did you get it from?
thanks a lot!
I think the answer is not choosing one particular reverb unit, but rather in stacking 2 or 3 of them. One serving the modulations and special FX and the other for providing space, tails, etc.
In theory the Bitwig Reverb unit has a lot of potential for creative reverberations with slots for unlimited “insert” and “tank” effects. But its two algos sound a bit dry and not spectacular…