Digi's MIDI Track + Logic

Hello guys,
I tried to look for this everywhere and probably I missed it but I hope there’s a good soul out there who can help a newbie Elektron enthusiast (Digitakt + Digitone)
I’m trying to prepare a setup so I can use the machines inside Logic via Overbridge. I’d like to use the Midi tracks of the Digitakt (or DT) to drive Software VSTs within Logic, so I load the VST and change it’s channel to match the Midi track on the DK.
I have 2 questions:

  • no matter the assigned channel I can only play, with the Digitakt, the instrument I have currently selected. How could I just assign the VSTs with different channels and be able to sequence them as I’d do with the audio tracks ?

  • I have a single aux / bus audio to record my master track from the DK, I don’t need separate tracks.
    I was thinking that the midi channels controlled VSTs would be recorded in the master track, but instead I think I have to arm and then record the separate VST tracks, while the Digitakt audio track will only print the audio !?!? Am I correct

Sorry for bothering you guys with probably trivial questions and thanks in advance

Marco

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Welcome to the forum. I don’t know enough to answer your questions. But I’m bumping it up so others might see it and be able to help you out.

thanks a lot Craig ! appreciated

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Well nothing came up, so I suggest checking out our own @DaveMech’s Overbridge tutorials:

Also, I noticed that there are plenty of Logic and Overbridge threads on here. It could be worth searching around to see if someone has already answered your questions. Good luck!

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yes i saw it Craig but it’s not very helpful for my needs, however i’m digging through a lot of posts and doing a lot of trial and errors so i’m slowly getting there,
thanks anyway for trying to help,
cheers

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You will have to find and understand the environment in Logic. Google for it or i think there are also Youtube videos.

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thank you ! slowly getting there with a lot of trial and errors as well.
cheers

m

Hey man, that’s really interesting, i’ll give it a read, thanks a lot for finding the time to point me there,
best

m

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Hi @marcoiozzi and welcome!

I did something very similar for the last song I recorded. I chose to record each Digitakt sample track on it’s own separate track, but what I’m going to recommend should work exactly the same if you use the “Stereo Output” version of the Overbridge Digitakt plugin instead of the “Multi-output (10xStereo)”.

I had 5 of the Digitakt’s MIDI tracks outputting to MIDI channel’s 9 to 13, and then in Logic I added 5 different Software Instruments so each could be controlled by a Digitakt MIDI track.

To make it work here’s what you have to do:

Add each of the Software Instruments you want to use and configure their MIDI Channels, so each has their own unique one. Then make sure the corresponding MIDI tracks on the Digitakt also have matching “CHAN” set on the SRC tab.

In Logic, under Project Settings… > Recording in the MIDI section make sure you have a tick for “Auto demix by channel if multitrack recording”. This is what makes sure the appropriate MIDI channel only controls the Software Instrument you want.

Now the key part of that setting is “if multitrack recording”. Logic tends to expect you to be recording a single track at at time, so you need to make sure that all of the Software Instruments are Record armed at the same time for Logic to split out the MIDI channels and have them respond to each MIDI track from the Digitakt. That applies whether you’re recording or just want to hear the audio while practicing.

In theory you should just be able to click the R against each track and have all of them Armed together, but I’ve experienced weird behaviour where I’d get half way through arming all of them and then suddenly everything I’d just armed would disarm. Very annoying. The workaround I have for that is to put all the tracks I want to arm together into a single Group by clicking in the channel strip’s Group box and selecting the same group number for all. Then configure the Group Settings to include Record arm. That way you can click on just one of their R buttons and all of them will arm together.

It works both for when you are recording and when you just want to practice.

You should also note that the currently selected track is also Record armed by default, so depending what you have selected, sometimes you can have MIDI going to a track that you don’t want. I tend to keep a blank Audio track at the top of the project and just make sure I select that before starting a recording.

Now, when you’re recording, it will look like all the MIDI is being recorded into a single region on one of the Software Instrument tracks even though all of them are playing, but don’t worry, when you hit Stop the MIDI regions get split out across all the relevant tracks. It’s a bit disconcerting at first and made me abandon a few perfectly good recordings trying to figure out what was wrong.

For part two of your question, if I’ve understood you correctly. The audio from the Software Instruments has nothing to do with the Digitakt, the audio is generated internally in Logic and routed to their channel. When recording for Software Instruments, it doesn’t record audio it records MIDI regions, which will then play back in realtime. If you want to print the audio for these Software Instruments you can right click on the MIDI region and select Bounce in Place. Alternatively, if you prefer to record audio regions for the Software Instruments at the time of performance, you can set up new Audio tracks for each instrument and route the audio from the Software Instrument track via a bus and into the new Audio track.

You’ll also need to do that for the audio coming from the Digitakt’s Overbridge plugin, because that lives on a MIDI track rather than an audio track. So I always route the audio via a bus to a new audio track and record it on there.

Let me know if this makes sense to you, I should probably record a short tutorial to make it a bit clearer.

If you need any help with setting up the Overbridge audio routing for the Digitakt’s sample tracks, should you decide to multi-track record them, then you might want to watch the tutorial I made yesterday:

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Hello Dave,
I was slowly losing hope and little by little I have been able to setup almost everything, however your email was a GREAT surprise and solved the most stupid problem I had which was enabling the R for recording on all the tracks … :frowning: I had the same glitch you have of some of them “losing” the record state and I did not honestly think that would have mattered so I was trying to find solutions.
The YouTube video I just saw I’m sure will be a godsend for a lot of other people.
So I thank you A LOT for taking the time to answer in a such a clear way, you’ve been very helpful and we can finally have, in my opinion, something comprehensive about Logic.

I don’t know if it’s because I also have a Digitone but I do have though some instability issues, sometimes the DT goes crazy (when setting up Midi, or it might be a coincidence) and starts spitting out notes at random, which forces me to turn the machine off.

Have you experience, by any chance, some instability !!! I also get crazy weird noise as soon as I go lower than 512 as buffer, which is weird as my machine is pretty powerful…

anyway, thanks again man, VERY kind of you

Marco

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Yes, I have experienced something like that a handful of times. I think it’s some sort of MIDI loop issue, but I’ve never figured out what’s causing it. It didn’t happen enough to stop me being able to record my work, but when it happens it is pretty annoying. I had a feeling the latest firmware update might have fixed the problem, but maybe not.

If you don’t need to send any MIDI to the Digitakt you could try disabling the MIDI out in Logic’s settings to see if that solves the loop issue.

ok if it happens I’ll try, good point, still trying to setup the Digitone AND a NDRL… jeez
thanks again Dave !

m

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Hey Dave I’m sorry to bother you again but maybe it’s something again you can help me with.
Via the auto channel 10, if my external keyboard is connected via Midi IN I can record chords etc using Step Recording mode for example, which is pretty useful, but because I have both the DK and DT I thought I could use the external keyboard within Logic via USB so without the cable.
I’m trying to find a way but maybe you have already a solution for this ?
thanks

EDIT
I used a solution before by creating an EXTERNAL MIDI track on channel 10 for either the DT and DK,
this allows me to input notes via USB but I have a feeling it’s something that was causing the crashes, so maybe you have another suggestion, thanks

I was just coming to this amazing forum to learn this exact thing. Much appreciated!

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