How do you stay motivated?

I think the important thing is to learn how to motivate yourself, yeah. I mean sure, as an amateur for me the process is more important than the end result, as in I care much more about having fun than actually releasing music, but sometimes with bands I’ve really struggled to get something done, be it due to inter-band conflict or incompatible vision. In those moments I’ve really struggled to find motivation, and often taking a short break or concentrating on the end goal has helped a lot. Or just having an end goal, like a finished album or a cool tour for the album.

If you just make music never to be published, alone in your bedroom I don’t wonder why it’s sometimes hard to feel motivated. Nor do I necessarily think you should, as there’s no stakes involved and if it’s only supposed to be fun, why bother if it isn’t? Raising the stakes a bit brings a lot of motivation in itself.

Yes, being a pro surely change the game. A professionist may struggle more to find motivation, when he have to confront himself with all the problems of a real job. If music it’s an hobby, motivation may be easyer to achieve.
Also the meaning of the word “motivation” may change: for a pro it means to find inner resources to finish the track, for a hobbyst it may simply mean to find the inspiration to play and to do it with satisfaction.
But I also believe that in a basic level, pro and hobbyst may have the same problems. Both are doing something creative and to be creatives it needs to be well motivated IMO.

I think you have hit on something here. If you’re a pro, then you have other people relying on you delivering (such as a label or a sync company, for example) so you need to finish a track and probably to a deadline or your reputation is harmed and your future work is at stake. As a hobbiest, there is no real need to finish a track other than personal satisfaction. Therefore, I’d say it’s harder for the latter because all motivation has to come from within with no real world consequences. At least that’s how I imagine it to be, having never been a true bonafide pro myself.

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Sorry, long post alert. TLDR? I dunno, less art more craft, I guess.

From a hobbyist perspective who doesn’t really release anything and does it mainly as an extension of my love for music, motivation is a complicated beast.

Sometimes I compare it to painting, in that I have the space, the paints, the canvas, but yet all I know of painting is what I’ve seen in a gallery. I vaguely know in some way that that painter has years of the craft behind them and that’s probably the 20th time they’ve painted that subject, but I don’t apply that same test or process to my music, but I want the kind of result that comes from it.

The other thing I sometimes compare it to is the phase I went through making hand stitched leather wallets. I eventually made some I was really proud of, but the earlier ones were pretty terrible. The thing is though, they were all finished, and even finished crap was way more satisfying than something beautiful you gave up on because of one wonky stitch. Mess up but keep going because hey, it will still work in the end, it holds cash and cards and fits in your pocket. My wife would tell me to stop being down on myself everytime I pointed out the flaws in what I had just made, but really I wasn’t, I was just focussed and excited about knowing what techniques I had to refine for the next one. As an example of how often art emerges from craft, there was one wallet I made that was supposed to be visually pretty, using a few coloured leathers. It came out ok, but what surprised me was that it was beautifully tactile through some unplanned combination of the size, the feel of the stitching where you held it, and that each of the three leathers had a really different texture, from rough to buttery smooth. Holding it was a bit like wearing those massage sandals :slight_smile:

If I applied my approach to making music to my very amateurish woodworking, it would probably look like sketching a plan for a rocking horse, grabbing the tools for pyrography, the materials for a chicken coop, and then trying to build a dining table and expecting it to be just as good as the dining tables I hear on the radio. I think there’s a reflex with making music that says that if you had plans, tools, materials and intent to make a table that hey man, you can’t take a formulaic approach with art.

Relating music back to my other hobbies, I’m hoping for results that are completely unjustifiable with the amount of effort that I put into each of the steps.

For me currently, the trick to staying motivated to turn on and play with gear is to not try and make anything, just hey, today I’m going muck about with this aspect of this thing and that’s it. That’s things like coming up with a drum pattern not for the pattern’s sake, but as something to jam bass over.

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Meditate for 5 mins - it helps get in the zone

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I don‘t. When I‘m in the mood I‘m in the mood, when I‘m not, I‘m not.

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I don’t either… I have moments I want to make music all day long, and moments I don’t do anything, and that’s fine.

It took me 5 years to make something I liked myself enough for sharing. and another 5 years before I made a track that I really like and is finished.

as long as you don’t depend on it, everything is fine, just enjoy yourself.

I find that having multiple projects with clearly different styles / approach helps with the motivation. Forcing myself out of my comfort zone has not only motivated but also inspired and even helped me find ways to create with ease.

That said, there are moments when I have no motivation / inspiration and when that happens, I just do something else. Eventually there will be an idea and that’s all it takes to get something going again.

The last bit that I find extremely important is to let that art go and find its audience. I don’t care about how many plays my stuff gets as knowing that the music out there and accessible is the closure I need to keep going.

Motivation is a myth. Creating is working and often work isn’t fun. If you want to stay productive you have to sometimes work when you dont feel like it.

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Saving up and taking time off has been a game changer for me. I can’t say I’m an advocate of the 9 to 5 life for a passionate musician. As soon as I start my free months I am immensely productive.

This. Just sitting in your space and thinking about what you wanna do and just letting go is a great way to get started if you doing know exactly what you want to do beforehand.

I’m the opposite, I have a hard time working on music when I’m on holiday. Much easier to concentrate after work or on the weekends. When I’m on holiday, I do stuff I cant do when I’m working, like go hiking or a Road trip or something.

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my motivation is influenced by my challenge in creating dynamic arrangement/composition…most of the time I am trying to figure out an efficient work flow ( I use gears and Live to record) I usually record all I once but I makes the tracks a bit longer than intended.

Can I also buy nice shoes to make beats in ? : )

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Haha, if it makes you in the mood why not. The thing is you just have to start and then motivation comes by itself. You just have to know what can trigger the start

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sometimes i’m forcing myself listening to one-bar-loop-style techno and telling myself: look dude, while you’re stuck, others get respected releasing THIS.

works pretty well.

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Definitely. And a smoking jacket.

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…i don’t.

if i’m in da mood…things happen fast…if i’m not…i don’t bother and go for a walk…

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I have long periods of non-motivation, which is crazy considering how much time and money I’ve spent building a small studio and collecting esoteric synths/modules (and at least the basic knowledge needed to start using them). I try not to stress about it, I know it will change.

For me these periods are linked to other problems of insomnia, anxiety, racing mind, exhaustion, low mood etc. and I have to lift myself out of those situations first - trying to make music in the middle of that just leads me to frustration and self-resentment.

Once I’m out of that, I find that a little every day works for me. Even if I just turn the machines on and play through what I made yesterday and decide it’s rubbish. Just turn something on every day and make sound with it. When I hear something I like make a plan for what to do with it. Then I can have short tasks in mind for the limited time I get to work on things e.g fix the hihats, practice performing a 30 min section, create scenes for a transition etc.

Of course it doesn’t always work like this. Sometimes I just turn something on and let it drone or make a feedback path (especially with modular). I don’t have any rules or deadlines or pressure. Maybe I would be more productive if I did!

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This is the best motivator honestly, barring divine. I don’t think I’ve ever finished or at least finalized a piece of music without a deadline of some sorts.

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