MIDI out from synthesizer tracks on Digitone

Elektron Gear Digitone/Digitone Keys
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Hey everyone.

I need the MIDI that is coming from the synthesizer tracks 1-4 on the Digitone (so not the MIDI tracks). It is working when playing seperate notes on the internal keyboard, but not when the notes are input into the sequencer.

I do get the MIDI that comes from the MIDI channels sequencers. But I need the MIDI that is coming from the synth tracks so I can use them to control visuals in Touchdesigner or use the MIDI for doubling synth tracks with softsynths.

YES, I have used tried putting the TRIG KEY DST to both INT + EXT, and switching between OUTPUT CH to either AUTO or TRK Channel but this does not solve the problem. Am I overlooking something?

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It’s simply not possible to sequence the Audio Track data and output it as MIDI - when playing individual notes, it is just operating like a controller

You can sacrifice a MIDI track and clone what is on an audio track - that’s your best compromise

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AH okay, good to know, such a shame though… Can’t imagine that it would be that hard to implement.

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Bummer! I have the same use case, I would love if I could use the midi out from the synth tracks. I take for granted that most grooveboxes do this by default! I want to use note on and off from each synth track to send events to my light show :sob:

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Aaaargh! I can’t believe this is the case. Why? I too am looking to get note triggers to drive lasers and visuals. While the clone-to a-midi-track workaround works it means that any improvisation or randomness/probability isn’t reflected the same in both. This is a big reason why I use this machine. What a total bummer. This is my number 1 firmware update wish – must be so simple to implement

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If this is important to you, you might be able to do a janky workaround by using midi loopback and sequencing the synth tracks using the midi tracks and then split the output from the midi out port using a thru box (quadra thru, etc.) so that you can send the same data stream both back into the synth and to your visuals simultaneously.

Read more about midi loopback before you decide to try this as it is not without it’s own drawbacks. There is also the fact that this will eat up your midi tracks but since you know it’s not possible by design, you have to be willing to make sacrifices to get what you want.

I don’t think anything with code or features is really that simple to implement platform wide so I would not expect this to be added to elektron devices anytime soon, but they have ways you can make a feature request either by adding it to the digitone feature requests thread or sending your ideas to feature-request@elektron.se

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You can use NEI trig conditions to make sure your midi track follows the audio one.

I also think you can have knobs outputting values, to be confirmed.

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DN1 or DN2 ?

On DN1 or DN2, I am not sure a midi track can be triggered with NEI from an audio track with % condition. NEI don’t work with Probability.

What you can do is to sequence an audio track with a midi tracks can with Probability.

Midi cable between MIDI IN and OUT. Send midi back to light stuff with MIDI THRU.

Possible to use clock and transport in necessary.

I also think you can have knobs outputting values

Yes, possible to send CCs with audio track encoders, but they go to MIDI OUT. Possible to use midi tracks CCs.

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Isn’t there less chance of feedback if the split happens as soon as it exits the device?

Or is this redundant to the use of the midi thru port? I guess it must be.

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DN OUT > Spitter > DN IN ?

DN would receive same data. Using Thru doesn’t hurt. :content:

No feedback if you don’t send and receive clock, and disable the midi track channel (MIDI CONFIG > CHANNELS) if you don’t want it to receive its own data…

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Yeah I was thinking dn out to splitter then dn in but I guess you just confirmed that it’s redundant to use of the midi thru port so it uncomplicates the need to use additional hardware :+1:

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