I mean yeah but the resale on the whole new mpc range is pretty terrible which says something. Nobody is saying that it’s wrong to like the new MPCs and some older MPCs do have small benefits over the new ones. You’re kind of putting words in other peoples mouths then asking them to write an essay on it. Even if they did you’d just disagree with it. It’s a bit like someone saying ‘I miss my old car I could fix it myself’ because their cheap 2022 car with a billion more features is having problems.
“if you’re right detail exactly why 100% of people should drive vintage cars
as if that’s rational. Like I said I like the MPC I just expect it to do what it’s supposed to. They probably will fix the problem but I’m not gonna join akais pay-free PR team
I don’t think I’m trying to complain, I’m just saying it would be nice to read release notes to see what kinds of bugs they’re prioritizing. Releasing x.x.x updates without any notice is odd practice unless maybe you’re a car manufacturer.
How is the resale terrible? Mine regularly sells for maybe $200 less then a new one at most… that’s like 15% about and that seems about average… look at stuff liked elektron… you can find mk2 Trinity for like 40% off… maybe old x models you can find at that discount, but I don’t think mpc is any worse then the average. That model is been around now. Granted some actually go up like sequential, buchla, etc., But that’s usually not workstations just analog synth’s.
And small benefits?? I don’t even know how to respond to that… that is just dilutions if you think that is really true… unless all you listen to is 90’s hip hop or other extremely repetitive music.
For now you can switch off automation when needed. I often make filter automation on synth, i can switch off the automation read when it’s at the value i want. Example,make a filter sweep on a 4 bars, then switch on and off the automation read at the next bar loop.
These new MPCs are all features, no workflow. It’s like making music on a calculator or a thermomix. The user interface is about as consistent and thoughtful as Donald Trump and that red accent colour everywhere is scientifically proven to negatively affect the user’s mental health and sex drive. There are plenty of features yes, but they are like the inside of my fridge, ingredients stacked next to each other on a shelf, still raw, not yet cooked up into a flavorful whole. Oh and the plugins? well, yes if you’re the kind of person that orders Burger King for breakfast and drinks Coke before going to bed, you might just enjoy them…otherwise…well, there are objectively just much better alternatives out there…
eg just get a macbook air m1 with a novation launchkey mk3…or get an iPad and a midi controller of your choice and combine them in a shoe box, with a battery pack placed inside the box…you can design your own interface this way and the whole thing will still be more portable than an MPC Live 2.
Alternatively, if you want a hardware sampler for that #dawless experience, obviously get something that feels like hardware actually. Eg an Octatrack or a Toraiz SP16 if you must have a touchscreen with it all.
In conclusion I think I prove the point that anyone who actually THINKS they like this MPC series either just hasn’t seen enough to know they are wrong or they are so stubborn that they can’t admit to themselves that they are wrong. Everyone else knows they are wrong.
Easy, the old ones objectively sound MUCH better. More OG, lofi, hifi with better conversion and that nice bit reduced je ne sais quoi…just much better all around - no contest. Plus they were made by hand in Japan by Akai. The ones today are made by underpaid robots in a toy factory somewhere by inMusic. Don’t believe me? Look it up.
Ever werk on one of the old boxes? The micro screen, and lack of functions. Ya they were great…back then.
All gear is good. It only sounds as good as the musician. No gear makes the music.
The main thing is, does it help you create…if so…WHATEVER it is is good. If it doesn’t werk for you, too bad, move on. But that DEFINITELY doesn’t mean it doesn’t werk for everyone. The world is bigger than your headspace.
I’m a fan of both the new and old (controversial I know )…
What bugs me is removing features that old machines had. Like why can I no longer step sequence… It’s annoying especially since the functionality essentially exists (the list editor), however the new implementation means I can’t step sequence in it. At least not properly.
Still dig the live, but the old MPCs have the best step sequencer made to date imo, and they should just re-add it into the list edit. Could be so easily implemented via a button you click in list edit to go into step edit mode, thereby not even changing anything that’s already there.
This right here is why I am still on 2.10 lol. Just tell me what you fixed. It’s like they’re too embarrassed to admit there was a problem they needed to fix in the first place. It’s weird. I can’t name another company off the top that DOESN’T provide release notes.
Everything you wrote is subjective and I disagree with it. Other than the fact that you get better sounding plugins with a laptop. People have different opinions so there
people act like the mpc left them on guitar center’s doorstep when they were a child and they suffered an upbringing by a Maschine or circuit that didn’t love them or give them enough hugs… the mpc is not tinder, it will not cook you eggs the next morning when you know damn well you shoulda cooked them eggs yourself. and made the coffee too!
what determines whether something is an instrument or not in someone’s hands depends on if those hands are the hands of a musician or not and what their intentions are… a macbook is a computer, all of the beatmachines are computers so what, none of those computer instruments feel like any of the other computers in practice, they all have their own workflow feeling.
if you can’t make music with the mpc one, Live, and X line , then no one can argue against the validity of your lack of capability with an instrument that you don’t like, but there are quite alot of us that haven’t been deturbed by the bugs or growing pains of the mpc line, and while always welcoming improvements are doing just fine with this instrument so the whole premise is really moot because we really can’t speak on the experience for one another and can only do so for ourselves… External validation is a construct.
In understand where you’re coming from, but as I have already proven so impressively and irrevocably, you’re wrong — the new MPCs are not good, they are evil.
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