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Great find champ!
Was an insta-buy until I realised it brings nothing new to the synthesis engine apart from reverb and delay.
One could argue those features are already present on the ND2 with a little tweaking.
Iām disappointed in Nord to be honest, the NDs are the best drum synths on the planet in my opinion and it seems this release doesnāt further that. Some parameters are missing too.
Maybe they will drop some update that blows the machine right up, like turning the ND2 into a fully fledged 6 channel synth way backā¦
Looks like Iāll stick to my OT and ND 1+2 set-up!
Althoughā¦ Itās been hard not to buy another ND1 lately so Iāll probably get a 3 in the end because Iām a Nord Drum slut and I am not ashamed to admit it!
That will bring me up to a full 16 channel Nord Drum megaplex!
She-it!
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I was going to ask about differences between the ND2 and ND3, but if the reverb and delay are really the only changes then Iāll definitely be keeping my eyes open for a ND2 as they go on clearance.
Nord Drum 2 has an āAttack sectionā with LFO and stuff:
Nord Drum 3 - no mention of Attack Section. Might have even taken it away.
Side note: Some people will interpret āimproved output levelā as āwe cleaned up the sound so much that thereās less characterā. āSimplified user interfaceā might be interpreted as āwe dumbed it down by taking away editing optionsā.
Iāll start watching the market for price drops on the ND2 and Nord Pad.
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The new sound bank feature is intriguing. A bit like having an A4 style patch browser vs a Monomachine style ācopy sounds out of existing lotā system that the ND2 had.
Still, not as much of a leap that ND2 was from ND1. More of a product for new ND users than existing ones.
On the bright side, this will drive down ND2 used prices for the budget minded.
Iāll stick to my TM-2 for A4ās CV triggers. It already has FX.
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More differences. Less synth parameters in ND3. (WHY Nord, Why!?!?)
In the Tone section:
Dyn Timbre / Timbre is now Dyn Filter / Freq
No more Punch / Hi Decay
In the Noise section:
No more Attack/Rate or Envelope mode.
So it looks like the ND2 is like the Nord Lead 3.
Older, but a more complete synth.
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@Adamjay Exactly, there were omissions from ND1 to ND2 which is why I need both but the ND3 strips back even further.
Iām not sure if this makes the sound synthesis exclusive or restrictive, Iāll be aaaaaaaallllllll over that manual when it drops.
Seems like the ND2 is the NL3 and the ND3 is the A1 in terms of approach for sure.
( Loosely speaking )
Simplification is great but if itās at the expense of exploration it is a bad move.
Iām sure Nord know what they are doing but if feels like the ND3 proves the end of the road for drum synthesis in a red wedge!
No new models, waveforms or synthesis methodsā¦ Mmmmm
Still though the previous two have altered my life so Iām not complaining!
Iād take the NL3 over NL4 or A1 any day.
Can always add your own FX. But you canāt add in synth parameters that have been omitted.
From http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2016/04/04/messe-2016-new-version-of-nord-drum/
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Now that is a new feature that I can definitely support. I had to run mine through a boost pedal to get a good input level in A4ās external input.
So thatās nice.
āSimplified user interfaceā might be interpreted as āwe dumbed it down by taking away editing optionsā.
āimproved output levelā could also be interpreted as āwe cleaned up the sound so much that thereās less characterā.
@Ocobus you are quite right, I have the pad for the ND2 but enjoy the fact I can just take the brain somewhere, fits just right in a combat pocket!
Donāt get me wrong the ND3P looks neat but you canāt detach it so itās a footprint that needs dealing with. I sometimes like the ability to program the sounds as another person plays them also, bit like the SFX-6! Itās all about the synthesis! Oh yeah and the sequencingā¦
I truly feel the two NDs before may well have been neglected in āelectronicā circles, the ND2 in particular being more than capable in many ways, 101 bass? Blip blop? Boom bam spillip? Rrrrrrrrr
Best 6 x digi mono going for my needs. Kerzapp!
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Just separate outputs would have created a sufficient gap I guess.
āimproved output levelā could also be interpreted as āwe cleaned up the sound so much that thereās less characterā.[/quote]
As long as it is at least 3dB hotter.
Really like the look of that! But like others have said, may be an idea to pick up a bargain on a ND2 + pads instead. Very tempting!
looks like retrig is gone no?
maybe replaced by the new (individual?) delay.
suppose the only good news here for me is that getting a second nd2 seems less crazy. long live the nd2
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Sweet, ND2 will be cheaper and thereās not even a GAS tradeoff for the newer model.
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All of you convinced of lower prices on ND2s, why would anyone in their right mind downgrade to an ND3 and sell their ND2?