Octatrack + 0-Coast : setup help required

Hey,

Need some guidance on how to record 0-Coast into the OT on different tracks.

Not sure how Cuckoo did it— but its the same idea. Bass on one track and melodies on other tracks.

Problem I run into is when I record under Chromatic mode. The bass sound that I recorded on track 1 changes as I play with the 0-Coast knobs to play a melody on track 2.

How do I record sounds from the 0-Coast and keep them sounding the same way I recorded them?

I hit record + play to record the midi.

Cheers

Of course. All you have done is record midi notes. Nothing else.

Sounds like you want to sample the bassline, then make a melody to go over the bassline?

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Yeah, resampling is the way. The good news is, it’s wicked fun!

You can also try do a little bit of (really, not much) paraphonic stuff with the second CV input, or use multiple tracks to kind of puzzle together melodies. Either way, it’s not going to sound like squeaky clean mutes or multiple parts. And that’s also fun!

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Correct. Not sure how to record all that…

with audio, not midi!

Switch from midi to audio in the OT, record the incoming audio, playback. Et voilà it’s forever in the same pitch. Only if you save the recording buffer of course.

You bought an expensive item, its natural to sit down and learn how to. Invest time or let it be.
You shouldn’t open multipe threads with the same questions too.

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By sampling the audio. There are multiple videos on youtube how to do it.

Classic :point_up_2:

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Pete — I’m using chromatic mode on the OT to play the notes. So how can I record that as audio when I’m in midi mode?

you record the midi first into a midi track.
Then you go to an audio track and sample the audio.
Rinse and repeat for every sound you want to record

Live sampling is like the very soul of the Octatrack. Definitely get yourself some learning in. It can feel fiddly and annoying at first (I still find it so after months, but that’s just me)… but it’s incredibly powerful and eventually it becomes fun.

Programme some notes into the midi sequencer (don’t just play them manually). Set up recording (there’s several ways which is why I won’t go into it here); hit play (and you can have the OT automatically sample at this point); set it up to play back; you can clear out the midi at this point, if you want; move on to the next sound.

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Bro did you read what I wrote? He is playing notes thru the OP and Im playing it thru midi ON THE OCTATRACK on CHROMATIC mode.

Do you understand?

That’s my whole point isn’t it? I dont want to program notes I want to play them live and record.

You can’t hit record when on chromatic mode and move on because the sound doesn’t get saved when I move on, the sound keeps changing.

Bro. Take a breath.

You are asking relatively rudimentary questions about an extremely complex device. People are trying to help you when the could just very deservedly tell you to go read the manual.

Everything Unifono said is correct about the question you asked. If that doesn’t help you, maybe consider rephrasing the question or helping us understand better what you’re after.

But honestly you need to watch some more tutorials and read the manual. And thats totally fine because the Octatrack is the diametrical opposite of plug and play.

Ok I see what you mean now. I didn’t think it would be this tiresome.

I want to record the sound then move to the next track and play a different sound and record it.

It doesnt make sense to do all that for each sound —- resampling that is.

Man ill just use my keyboard to control the 0coast and record that way.

Thanks for your help.

I see. That’s an arbitrary limitation you’re imposing on yourself. What’s the benefit to you working this way?

The only other way I can imagine is to use a separate keyboard.

Buddy - do you really think I didn’t watch videos on Youtube? Like do you really think that I just came here and started jawing off at ppl?

If you have some pointers then share them but nobody needs a lecture on how expensive things are or how complex they are. Or how others are trying to help.

Exactly — use a separate keyboard. I did not want to do that.

You might have, yet you’re asking very basic questions. Have you read the manual?

Not at first, but it went south pretty quickly after an accurate, good faith answer.

Print the manual and get cozy.

The MIDI signal path is like this:

MIDI in → audio tracks → filtering to avoid MIDI loops → MIDI Tracks → MIDI Out.

Because of the filtering you can’t directly play MIDI through the OT in the basic way that seems most obvious. You have to do some set-up, and there’s a couple of things which might seem “basic” but which are blocked (to avoid the MIDI loops).

This architecture is to allow the MIDI tracks to control the audio tracks, by looping MIDI from the midi tracks to the audio tracks. This lets you use the MIDI arp to do some with the sample playback.

One of the limits of this set-up is that you need to be in MIDI mode to play notes out to external devices. (happy to be explained how this is too simplistic, but I think I got it right).