Recording to Flex track Buffer via MIDI [Resolved]

Something I’ve been trying to figure out for my live setup is how to trigger recording into a Flex Track Buffer via MIDI controller.
I use a Novation Launch Control XL to mix tracks, control fx, cue/send levels. But the one MIDI mapping I can’t figure out is how to make my resampling track record. I can see in the manual there’s a cc#/note to do it and I’ve got it mapped but it never works. I’ve tried different recording modes like One, One2, and Hold with no luck - also tried with my MIDI controller button to both Momentary and Toggle.
I’ve tried mapping Track Arm cc as well to see if Arming the track then sending cc for SRC3 Record works but that didn’t do it either.
Not the worst thing to have to hold the track button and hit Rec3 but it would be much more convenient to do it all from my controller.

Has anyone here done this successfully?

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Yes, this is possible.
But for every track that you want to control with MIDI, a MIDI channel needs to be set.
Also for INAB/INCD/SRC3 Record to work, each channel needs to have it’s note mapping set to standard.

When all is set up right, you can control INAB/INCD/SRC3 Record on each audio tracks’ channel with note 61/62/63.

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Thanks for the reply! I have all the midi channels setup properly because my controls work for every track and all of the other controls. This is the only MIDI command that I haven’t gotten to work properly. Guess I just need to fiddle with it some more.

Slightly off-topic: I feel it is my duty to remind you that you don’t record to Flex Machines, you record with the Track Recorder. The Recorder and the Flex Machine can share the same buffer, which I assume is what you meant. Recording works the same way whether your tracks have Flex or Static Machines (or any other Machine). Recorders record; Machines play back.

All the MIDI CC’s still work regardless of the selected note map, but MIDI Notes are assigned differently. Make sure you select standard(proj>midi>control>audio note in).
Or if set to map/track make sure each track has the standard mapping(MIDI+UP/DOWN).

I am using a recording buffer with a flex machine. I wasn’t aware that was an incorrect description. Thanks for the correction, I hope it clears up any confusion with my question.
In this case, I am using Recording Buffer 3 on Track 3, which is a Flex Machine.
I understand how recording to buffers works. Recording works when I do it on the Octatrack - pressing Track 3 button and pressing Rec3.
I’m only trying to figure out if there was anything extra I needed to besides have my MIDI channel set to 3 (for Track 3) and cc 63 on my MIDI controller.

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Thank you for the additional information. MIDI setting is set to Standard.
I am thinking that this might be an issue with my controller.

Make sure to send both Note On(button down) and Note Off(button up), otherwise the Octatrack assumes you’re holding the REC button.

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Excellent tip, thank you for your help today.

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I am nowhere near this kind of MIDI Control with the Octatrack and external controllers.

I presume one can also move the X-Fader via MIDI CC - e.g. with a expression pedal?

Yes!
CC#48 on any audio tracks’ MIDI channel for crossfader.

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Ya it’s awesome, you can control everything with a MIDI controller. As long as you can map the controller to the specified note/cc in the manual. Makes mixing tracks a breeze.

page 137

Cool - on my list at some point!!!

It works fine for me. Pardon, but after reading your posts on this issue, I didn’t see where you were adding a 1-shot trig to the track you’re wanting to arm via CC.

SCG

just to also say that i have successfully got this to work by sending cc from external hardware. perhaps a setting on the controller? maybe you could check by sending data from another device or your DAW?

good luck with it and let us know how it pans out

edit: sorry - just saw you already suspect something to do with the controller… can you explain how you have it setup? a custom mapping, i assume?

novation are really good with support and i know their product specialist is a big OT user and haunts these boards from time to time.

@Calc - got any knowledge here mate?

I’m not using 1-shot trigs to arm or record. I did however assign a button on my controller to arm the track for recording. And there’s always a trig on the first step of that track. I use it for looping.
Maybe I need to try placing a 1-shot trig on the sequencer? I have never used 1-shot trigs or recording trigs to record or arm tracks. Recording has always worked for me by pressing the track button and a Rec1-3 button.

Thanks for the reply. That was going to be my next test - trying with a different piece of gear or DAW.
Could be a setting on my controller’s buttons that I need to change.
Or I need to change the MIDI in settings on the Octatrack. I have it set to standard right now but that won’t allow all parameters to be controlled (like activating the record buttons). So I need to figure out the Audio Note In/Follow FW settings for my recording track.
I think I may have overlooked this in the manual. Will try it and report back. Thanks!

The way this has always worked for me is to:

  1. stop playback
  2. open recoding options
  3. push record
  4. Function+trig adds a 1 shot in the recording buffer track
  5. send the CC from my controller that ARMS the 1-shot

I’m relatively certain that the CC#53 will only arm 1-shot recorder trigs, so sending the CC without having a 1-shot trig on the recorder track might be why this is failing for you.

SCG

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You can control the record buttons with the note mapping set to standard, it’s actually required because they can’t be controlled with CC’s.

The arm buttons are in the CC mapping.

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Ah ha, that’s it! Note mapping instead of cc.
Thanks so much for troubleshooting this with me.

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