Of course but all of that has evolved way, WAY past of what it was in the beginning. Primitive X-Rays are not even close to the same technology as MRIs, CT scans, and all the other computerised imaging.
Medical chemistry has advanced to the point where the design of the pharmaceuticals can be tailored for very specific molecules and sites of action, we have discovered so much about the inner workings of the cell where we can create atomic-affinity for a given protein to reach its target site much more easily (and with less side-effects), also got techniques to tailor the rate of delivery of the medication over the day, so instead of taking 3-5 pills a day people can take 1 pill and have it slowly release into their bloodstreams over time.
Less invasive surgery techniques like keyhole has stopped people having their chests yanked out for open heart surgery for many, many cases. Organ transplants are absurdly more effective than 100 years ago, etc.
Medicine is one field where we are at a place incomparable to 100 years ago, we barely had antibiotics at that point, there was no treatment for many mental ailments, anesthetics were barely functional (and absurdly dangerous)…
It’s a very weird take, yeah, you’ve been reading too much sci-fi to believe that nanobots would be doing autonomous surgery inside your body by now but what we have advanced in the past 100 years is absurd.
Do we love all these different series in the catalogues from the companies? Not one that has it all.
Let’s take controllers as an example. Some might argue that you can buy 5 different controllers to sort of have it all going. But they don’t include telling that it comes with even more bugs, different workflows, editors etc.
I think there has been tons of progress, certainly since I started back in the late 80s. Things have changed for sure, and maybe the current crop of instruments don’t fit as well with the way you like to work, but it’s not through lack of progress. It’s just different.
Theres nothing wrong with sticking to what you know though - if the older gear works well for you, keep banging out those tunes using that!
Tried that, and will probably have continued that if Apple’s ios updates wouldn’t have caused a pile of unusable ipads, third party controllers and other related shit in my closet. Not to speak of all the money spend on apps that ended up useless. Why the hardware is still fine and give no signs to throw them away, the only apps that stood the test of their update philosophy timebomb are Netflix and Animoog. Never experienced that with a hardware electronic instrument. Waste of money, resources and satisfaction.
No no, I think people misunderstood - I am not demanding anything, just surprised by some limitations of current devices, given technological advances elsewhere. To illustrate this, I referred to some old gear I own. I have quite a few current boxes (MC-101, OP-Z, KO-133, M:C, etc) and I love some of them and certainly use them all to some degree. I just wanted to share my impression of not that much progress over the past couple decades, and asking what could be the reason.
my flagrant take is that spec sheet obsessors are severely lacking on the creativity spectrum and rather than build their own ability they request for others to provide them with tools they believe will replace that lack of creativity/ability. especially when their own solutions lack any innovation, its always just “More.”
What is a ‘spec sheet obsessor’? My assumption is that everyone in here is a musician that has an interest in Elektron gear, nothing else. Specs are discussed all the time, logically, as part of purchase decision or to understand what can be done with a machine. They are very prominently displayed (well most of the time anyway) by the corresponding companies.
what people do with them or how creative they are is none of my business and certainly not for me to judge.
There isn’t less progress and overbroad statements like that are more statements of your emotional truth, it is not literally true.
Instruments are designed and refined to make music, not so much to hit everyone’s showerthoughts fantasies.
The need to hit dopamine receptors through complaint and fantasy is an internet thing where communities become support groups for dissatisfaction and eh… that ain’t about the art.
It’s anti art, tbh.
If you know what you want and would rather see it in the world, make it. Or make music!
Expectations only grow when not arting.
Your feelings are your own but this stuff is just venting, use what exists or develop something new. The new often comes from using your tools enough to find natural ways to stretch the engine or new ways to use whatever hardware not in the manual IMO.
I say this as a software developer who also has a bunch of technological hobbies and works as a technologist for nonprofits. Not so much as an authority on anything, so much as I do buy new instruments to learn them and also spend a lot of time trying to find simple tools for simpler needs.
I thought so. I’ve surely never felt the urge to flag anything, I’m not that affected by something someone writes in a forum. Exchanging views and challenging the status quo is how you make progress anyway.
What if Loopop and others did a video NOT reviewing the next new product that a companies sends but did a video of what they would like to see as in certain product?
Let’s have a benchmark, set a minimum, be more critical and see if that changes the market.
They do have criticisms but there’s a reason why “I wish someone would make this project” isn’t a serious thing.
It’s very easy to have showerthoughts ideas, it’s very hard to execute them well in hardware.
Fantasies are a dime a dozen, innovation does happen at smaller scale. It’s often labors of love and we aren’t a large enough market even as guitars.
The hunt for New Ideas over novel use is unceasing, don’t cede so much of your life to what’s eternally out of sight.
Hopefully none of this comes off as a slight, it’s not a moral judgment. I love learning tech but accept that software can iterate rapidly with no need for hw engineering.
I don’t need to iterate rapidly through $1000 modules. If I wanted to iterate rapidly through $400 modules I’d be fully in Eurorack and miserable, not content.
software progressed a lot and a lot of people moved to using software, so why would any company create that beast of a device you’ve mentioned in OP when literally no one wants it?
in almost every thread there’s “why doesn’t X have Y? my $15 <insert software here (like Drumbo)> has that!”
what progression do you want? a mobile device that is unlimited? ipad/laptop, done, boom.
how about push3SA? it has everything you need, a standalone box with plethora of processing capabilities, storage and whatnot.
what else do you need?
I don’t particularly like the music, I mean not exactly my taste, but a lot of people here fans of Four Tet, clearly a successful artist that has a lot to show for, if you go through his setups - he created a whole bunch of music that people love with bare minimum, for example:
the obsessors are the ones who take this to the next step of “its Ridiculous that there is only X amount of space” or “these lazy engineers cant hold a candle to my Amazing product idea: the same thing they made, but more.”
Ultimately there is a literally tangible reason why innovation can happen with less risk in software.
And to the edit, I roll eyes at the pattern of behavior, mostly because I understand it in myself! Reasons to be dissatisfied are reasons to not art, venting on these topics to feel better without making art either.
I think that when we look at individual companies and how they spread features across their catalogue I don’t think that it’s hard to believe that features are constantly getting excluded. We could argue the reasons why they’re doing it and if that’s a good or bad thing.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I was trying to reflect on whether grooveboxes etc. have progressed as much as one could expect given overall IT progress. Especially in terms of capacity and processing.
It was meant as a normal discussion about the industry and where it’s going, nothing personal. The “less progress” was answering a specific comment that misunderstood my initial post as a generational complaint of an old geek too attached to his ancient gear.
But since some of you seem worried, I am not that old, I love some current gear, and my artistry, productivity and creativity are all fine, thanks.
