Your experience with macOS Monterey

I just installed it on an intel macbook pro, Logic and Ableton Live 11 seem to run fine, also overbridge reported no hickup the first minutes (but I havent tested all gear with it). Whats your experience? Any plug-ins, Software that aren’t compatible?

Update: Bitwig 4 and Studio One 5 also seem to run fine

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Monterey is out? Probably safe for me to upgrade to Big Sur, then.

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I’m holding out on Catalina til the bitter end :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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i skipped catalina entirely. big sur is quite good. smooth. loses 32bit plug ins and all GUIs on ohmforce plug ins are scrambled but thats because they’ve not been updated in quite a while.

anyway… i’ll add to monterey experiences once my new macbook pro gets here in a month or so

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Monterey isn’t quite as much of an architectural overhaul as Catalina and Big Sur were, both of which made changes to things like extensions, as well as dropping 32 bit support. The biggest thing Monterey seems to break is automator scripts.

I’m not going to say you are 100% in the clear, but it has been super smooth sailing for me.

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pretty much what i’ve read around the net. lot’s of good experiences so far. seems iOS 15 has a few wrinkles and more work for devs than Monterey… just an anechdotal comparison

Osx is getting into a consumer type of nonsense to be fair.
Now it breaks Automator scripts too?
Every year there seems to be essential parts getting scrapped and futility’s fetting added. Logic has the same tendencies. Only great thing about X is Sampler. And perhaps Alchemy, but this they jacked from Camel.
Good thing their iPhones get improved, I guess. And the phones don’t crash
Never thought I would say this, but Im alsmost done with Apple computers :cry:

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I never updated to Catalina. Is it safe to skip an OS entirely? I’ve never done that before.

There has certainly been at least one instance in the past where skipping a particular version would have been a really bad idea. So I play safe, like you.

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…for me the jump is high this time…

still working on high sierra…
so my next new mbp 14", arriving between 4th and 8th of november will leave me a bit stunned at first…

usually i keep my macs all running the system they came with…
but on one old mbp i jumped from mountain lion to high sierraa…and that ended up with no problems…but i have no experience, once jumping to any 64bit exclusive system so far…

and on my latest, running high sierra i will only jump one step to mojave, since i really want dark mode finally…and once i get used to montery on the 14" i will really gonna need that darkmode for sure and no matter what…

and it’s good to hear that nobody ran into big trouble with monterey so far…
really can’t wait for my very first cpu that can’t break into sweat 'n tears never again by just dealing with any kind of audio challenges…

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I did say that, and came back after some long years on linux and windows. Apple have got worse in some ways, but still, compared to the alternative…

I desperately needed shortcuts so I immediately updated to beta. There’s one app had hiccups called eqMac (which I highly recommend). All fixed now though.

For the last two updates, it feels like they’re only doing visual updates. Everything does work as it was previously. Sometimes it doesn’t even feel like it’s beta. Or maybe they’re not updating anything in intel os’es anymore ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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That should be possible. However the update app will advise when you need an intermediate step.
That said, you should thoroughly check all apps and drivers you have installed if they are compatible with the new OS or not. Check the manufacturers web site. Sometimes it’s necessary
to reinstall drivers after the update even when they are fit for the new system. This regularly happens to me with the driver for the Steinberg UR22.
And most important: Make a full backup of your system before upgrading. If you have a spare machine, try the upgrade on that first.

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still rocking El Capitan like it’s 2015!

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I’m still using Mojave like I’m chiseling beats onto stone tablets…

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IMO the OS is just a utility service for the apps (which for me is Logic, Ableton, VCV Rack) to access hardware, so unless an app requires it I stay put on the minimum viable operating system. For me that’s Mojave on a Mid 2012 i7 MBP running a MOTU 828 mk2 and Mackie MCU.

If I was on an M1 MacBook Pro running a MOTU Ultralite I’d definitely be on Monterey once the first point release comes out. Maybe I’ll upgrade next year, but TBH I haven’t run into any performance limitations with my 9 year old MBP, so I’ll stay put and try to focus on making music instead.

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If I could downgrade the machine I have to Mojave I would!

Sounds like it’s safe to take the plunge then. OB ok?

The 32 bit stuff is a bummer, I lost a lot of apps but that’s progress I suppose.

One of my biggest gripes is not being able to connect old iPods to modern Macs anymore. I have a perfectly fine iPod Classic that I just can’t sync anymore.

never had any trouble skipping an OS. i skipped catalina entirely. not had any issues and big sur works great for me.

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the ‘cells’ feature in logic is nice. pattern cells and midi cells. their version of clips but with a sequencer that’s quite flexible and jammable. also easy to drag and drop between arrangement and cells windows.

the logic updates have been good for a lot of things and so far are totally free for existing users. i think it’s been 9 years or something since i paid for a version of logic. maybe longer. anyway… there’s a lot they’ve done to fix things and improve things. still lot’s to do and you won’t find anyone who doesn’t have a wishlist/complaint (myself included). the environment window is still there and fully functional for better or worse.

i use other DAWs and music making environments but almost always mix in logic. have used it since 2.7 i think.

i’ve not had any issues w/MacOS and lack of features. it’s certainly made to work easier and faster and be optimized for their processors more and more which is a good thing imo. it’s quite efficient at a lot of things like RAM allocation etc and w/the new chips and 16 ram channels it’s just gonna be really fast environment for creative things.

people who want to get under the hood and into terminal will figure out ways to do what they want to do as they always do w/any OS. most people don’t need to bother w/that kind of stuff. so, yeah in some ways the OS is bending towards consumer tasks but i don’t think this effects anything that creative people want to do really… does it? if so, there’s other options and people should just use the thing that works best for them whatever that is.

other than the loss of ohmforce plug ins GUIs (default mac gui controls are still present) i haven’t lost any plug ins. for me, apple computers are working better than ever… though my memory holds my dual G5 mac pro tower in high regard. what a solid machine.

my current mac is a 2018 6 core i9 w/32gb ram and i ordered a new apple silicon version to replace it and hopefully be a very long term solution for my computer needs.

fingers crossed!

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