Synth engines Rythm vs Syntakt

How good is the Analog Rythm compared to the Syntakt in terms of synth machines?
The Syntakt has three synth machines: SY CHORD, SY TONE & SY BITS.
The Analog Rythm only has these two: SY DUAL VCO & SY RAW.

Can the Rythm produce something similar with its two synth engines?
Especially sounds like those from the SY CHORD machine?

And another question:
The Rythm unfortunately only has one LFO per track. That seems to me to be a major limitation.
How do you see it?

Syntakt also has SY SWARM, a supersaw that’s really fantastic.

RYTM also has SY CHIP, which has a cool 4-note arp. SY RAW and DVCO are dual oscillators, so they can be tuned to intervals (doubled tracks = 4-note chords).

I think in terms of sound generation, RYTM got some (excellent) extra analog machines in ls update, ST has the digital machines, RYTM can sample and play samples.

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I think “how good” is the wrong way to frame it. They’re both good, but have different strengths and weaknesses. You need to decide which of the tradeoffs you want to work with.

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It seems to me that the Syntakt has more possibilities when it comes to melodic sounds (leads, pads, stabs, chords), while the Rythm focuses more on drums.
Am I right about that?

No not all. The Syntakts engines are more versatile. But its a shame not to utilize the sample engine of the Rhythm as thats where its core strength is. And if you do then it will be as strong or stronger for leads.

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I am aware of the sampling possibilities of the Rytm, but I need to make a next-buy decision:
Syntakt or Rythm and i already got a Digitakt & Digitone.

there’s no straight answer to this question, best way to answer is trying both and seeing which one you connect with more. some people like the ST more, some AR, some both, some neither…

ST obviously has more digital synth machines, AR has CHIP, both have RAW/DVCO, that’s about all you can say from dry specs perspective.

if you can - try both. only you could know which one works better for you.

both are awesome in their own way.

there are so many ways to add additional modulation besides lfo, you can route individual outs to CV (in mk2) and make expression macros, you can do parameter slides, or if you use it with OB then you can have as many lfos as you need.
sure it would be nice to have one more but there are other ways to achieve modulation so it’s not that big deal, at least to me.

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One other thing to note re ST and Rytm’s analog synth voices (I believe this still holds for Chip as well) is that they only track up to about C7 (and won’t go past that point), so for high melody or pads digital machines or samples are needed depending on the box.

I too have ST and DT and together I think of them as very roughly equivalent to a Rytm in terms of the trade-offs. I am jealous of the expressive and performance features of Rytm but there are workarounds for ST, and I find the 2 LFOs really powerful for sound design.

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what kind of music do you make? otherwise it‘s hard to say.

One thing you need to know is that the Synth Machines are only available on the bottom row of the Rytm and Tracks 3 and 4 share the same Voice (Choke Group).

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Whoa, so you can’t layer 2 DVCOs or SY RAWs? (Without layering a sample, that is.) That’s really too bad. I like to pretend the ST is a Juno every once in a while with the 3 SY Raws into the FX block…

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You can choose any Synth Machine on the bottom row so, yes you could layer 2 Raw, 2 Chip or 2 DVCO.

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not including the choke track… @Humanprogram

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Indeed but answering @Humanprogram as he stated layering 2.

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Considering what you already have, Syntakt has some advantages in that you already know how to use it, it physically fits very neatly with your other machines, and covers the sonic ground between the other two Digis very well.
Syntakt is also still pretty early in its development whereas the AR is a mature platform and probably won’t see too much more in terms of added features.

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People say the optimum number of Elektron boxes is two.

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Get the Syntakt since you have a DT. Not sure what you want to do with these boxes but the Syntakt won’t look weird next to the other little boxes. The Rytm will look big compared to the DT and DN

On Rytm, consider layered simple samples (a few noise sources, a few single cycle waves) as part of the ‘synthesis’ engine. No sample hunting, just a static collection of a few flexible and common use samples for layering with the engines. Then in my opinion – Rytm is better than syntakt for synthesis, unless you need a supersaw or filter key tracking or something like that.

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Electro, weired House. I love to design strange sounds, layered drums.

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what do you mean with filter key tracking?